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From: Li Kun <hw.likun@huawei.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, jiong.wang@arm.com,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, yao.qi@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, Dave.Martin@arm.com,
	christoffer.dall@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 00/11] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication userspace support
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 22:12:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b28dcd14-7b4c-b4f3-830b-dbd436200df9@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1500480092-28480-1-git-send-email-mark.rutland@arm.com>

Hi Mark,

Could you please give us some information about the impact to 
performance to help us evaluating

the influence to the system?

Thanks a lot.


Best Regards


在 2017/7/20 0:01, Mark Rutland 写道:
> This series adds support for the ARMv8.3 pointer authentication extension.
>
> Since RFC [1]:
> * Make the KVM context switch (semi-lazy)
> * Rebase to v4.13-rc1
> * Improve pointer authentication documentation
> * Add hwcap documentation
> * Various minor cleanups
>
> I've pushed the series to the arm64/pointer-auth branch [2] of my linux tree.
> I've also pushed out a necessary bootwrapper patch to the pointer-auth branch
> [3] of my bootwrapper repo.
>
>
> Extension Overview
> ==================
>
> The ARMv8.3 pointer authentication extension adds functionality to detect
> modification of pointer values, mitigating certain classes of attack such as
> stack smashing, and making return oriented programming attacks harder
>
> The extension introduces the concept of a pointer authentication code (PAC),
> which is stored in some upper bits of pointers. Each PAC is derived from the
> original pointer, another 64-bit value (e.g. the stack pointer), and a secret
> 128-bit key.
>
> New instructions are added which can be used to:
>
> * Insert a PAC into a pointer
> * Strip a PAC from a pointer
> * Authenticate strip a PAC from a pointer
>
> If authentication succeeds, the code is removed, yielding the original pointer.
> If authentication fails, bits are set in the pointer such that it is guaranteed
> to cause a fault if used.
>
> These instructions can make use of four keys:
>
> * APIAKey (A.K.A. Instruction A key)
> * APIBKey (A.K.A. Instruction B key)
> * APDAKey (A.K.A. Data A key)
> * APDBKey (A.K.A. Data B Key)
>
> A subset of these instruction encodings have been allocated from the HINT
> space, and will operate as NOPs on any ARMv8 parts which do not feature the
> extension (or if purposefully disabled by the kernel). Software using only this
> subset of the instructions should function correctly on all ARMv8-A parts.
>
> Additionally, instructions are added to authenticate small blocks of memory in
> similar fashion, using APGAKey (A.K.A. Generic key).
>
>
> This Series
> ===========
>
> This series enables the use of instructions using APIAKey, which is initialised
> and maintained per-process (shared by all threads). This series does not add
> support for APIBKey, APDAKey, APDBKey, nor APGAKey. The series only supports
> the use of an architected algorithm.
>
> I've given this some basic testing with a homebrew test suite. More ideally,
> we'd add some tests to the kernel source tree.
>
> I've added some basic KVM support, but this doesn't cater for systems with
> mismatched support. Looking forward, we'll need ID register emulation in KVM so
> that we can hide features from guests to cater for such cases.
>
>
> Open questions
> ==============
>
> * Should keys be per-thread rather than per-process?
>
>    My understanding is that glibc can't (currently) handle threads having
>    different keys, but it might be that another libc would prefer per-thread
>    keys. If desired, we could add a mechanism for a thread to re-initialize its
>    keys without an exec*().
>
> * Do we need a separate hwcap for XPAC* instructions?
>
>    Library code performing stack unwinding may need to interoperate with other
>    code which may or may not be using pointer authentication. It may be
>    desirable to use XPAC* rather than attempting authentication and/or acquiring
>    the PAC masks via ptrace.
>
>    As we may expose APIBKey (potentially separately from APIAKey) in future,
>    HWCAP_APIA cannot be used to determine when these instruction can/should be
>    used.
>
> * Should we expose a per-process data key now, to go with the insn key?
>
>    I don't currently have a use-case for this.
>
> * Should we expose generic authentication (i.e. APGAKey)?
>
>    I don't currently have a use-case for this.
>
> * Should the kernel remove PACs when unwinding user stacks?
>
>    This is simple to do, but it's arguably placing a policy in the kernel as to
>    what we expect user stacks to look like. Regardless, userspace will have to
>    perform this when unwinding with DWARF.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
>
> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2017-April/498941.html
> [2] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git arm64/pointer-auth
> [3] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/boot-wrapper-aarch64.git pointer-auth
>
> Mark Rutland (11):
>    arm64: docs: describe ELF hwcaps
>    asm-generic: mm_hooks: allow hooks to be overridden individually
>    arm64: add pointer authentication register bits
>    arm64/cpufeature: add ARMv8.3 id_aa64isar1 bits
>    arm64/cpufeature: detect pointer authentication
>    arm64: Don't trap host pointer auth use to EL2
>    arm64: add basic pointer authentication support
>    arm64: expose user PAC bit positions via ptrace
>    arm64/kvm: preserve host HCR_EL2 value
>    arm64/kvm: context-switch ptrauth registers
>    arm64: docs: document pointer authentication
>
>   Documentation/arm64/booting.txt                |   8 ++
>   Documentation/arm64/elf_hwcaps.txt             | 138 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   Documentation/arm64/pointer-authentication.txt |  85 +++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/Kconfig                             |  23 +++++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/cpucaps.h               |   4 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/esr.h                   |   3 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_arm.h               |   3 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h              |  28 ++++-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_hyp.h               |   7 ++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mmu.h                   |   5 +
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mmu_context.h           |  25 ++++-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/pointer_auth.h          |  97 +++++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/sysreg.h                |  30 ++++++
>   arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/hwcap.h            |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h           |   5 +
>   arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c                 |  39 ++++++-
>   arch/arm64/kernel/cpuinfo.c                    |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/kernel/head.S                       |  19 +++-
>   arch/arm64/kernel/ptrace.c                     |  39 +++++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c                   |  21 ++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/Makefile                    |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/ptrauth-sr.c                |  91 ++++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/switch.c                    |   9 +-
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/tlb.c                       |   6 +-
>   arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c                      |  32 ++++++
>   include/asm-generic/mm_hooks.h                 |  11 ++
>   include/uapi/linux/elf.h                       |   1 +
>   27 files changed, 719 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/arm64/elf_hwcaps.txt
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/arm64/pointer-authentication.txt
>   create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/pointer_auth.h
>   create mode 100644 arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/ptrauth-sr.c
>

-- 
Best Regards
Li Kun


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From: Li Kun <hw.likun@huawei.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, christoffer.dall@linaro.org,
	Dave.Martin@arm.com, jiong.wang@arm.com,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, yao.qi@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 00/11] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication userspace support
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 22:12:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b28dcd14-7b4c-b4f3-830b-dbd436200df9@huawei.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20170725141224.MUZeUrVbbFl54Eb2FW9wYdO9GiJu6ldtL9-7vU0ZaQY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1500480092-28480-1-git-send-email-mark.rutland@arm.com>

Hi Mark,

Could you please give us some information about the impact to 
performance to help us evaluating

the influence to the system?

Thanks a lot.


Best Regards


在 2017/7/20 0:01, Mark Rutland 写道:
> This series adds support for the ARMv8.3 pointer authentication extension.
>
> Since RFC [1]:
> * Make the KVM context switch (semi-lazy)
> * Rebase to v4.13-rc1
> * Improve pointer authentication documentation
> * Add hwcap documentation
> * Various minor cleanups
>
> I've pushed the series to the arm64/pointer-auth branch [2] of my linux tree.
> I've also pushed out a necessary bootwrapper patch to the pointer-auth branch
> [3] of my bootwrapper repo.
>
>
> Extension Overview
> ==================
>
> The ARMv8.3 pointer authentication extension adds functionality to detect
> modification of pointer values, mitigating certain classes of attack such as
> stack smashing, and making return oriented programming attacks harder
>
> The extension introduces the concept of a pointer authentication code (PAC),
> which is stored in some upper bits of pointers. Each PAC is derived from the
> original pointer, another 64-bit value (e.g. the stack pointer), and a secret
> 128-bit key.
>
> New instructions are added which can be used to:
>
> * Insert a PAC into a pointer
> * Strip a PAC from a pointer
> * Authenticate strip a PAC from a pointer
>
> If authentication succeeds, the code is removed, yielding the original pointer.
> If authentication fails, bits are set in the pointer such that it is guaranteed
> to cause a fault if used.
>
> These instructions can make use of four keys:
>
> * APIAKey (A.K.A. Instruction A key)
> * APIBKey (A.K.A. Instruction B key)
> * APDAKey (A.K.A. Data A key)
> * APDBKey (A.K.A. Data B Key)
>
> A subset of these instruction encodings have been allocated from the HINT
> space, and will operate as NOPs on any ARMv8 parts which do not feature the
> extension (or if purposefully disabled by the kernel). Software using only this
> subset of the instructions should function correctly on all ARMv8-A parts.
>
> Additionally, instructions are added to authenticate small blocks of memory in
> similar fashion, using APGAKey (A.K.A. Generic key).
>
>
> This Series
> ===========
>
> This series enables the use of instructions using APIAKey, which is initialised
> and maintained per-process (shared by all threads). This series does not add
> support for APIBKey, APDAKey, APDBKey, nor APGAKey. The series only supports
> the use of an architected algorithm.
>
> I've given this some basic testing with a homebrew test suite. More ideally,
> we'd add some tests to the kernel source tree.
>
> I've added some basic KVM support, but this doesn't cater for systems with
> mismatched support. Looking forward, we'll need ID register emulation in KVM so
> that we can hide features from guests to cater for such cases.
>
>
> Open questions
> ==============
>
> * Should keys be per-thread rather than per-process?
>
>    My understanding is that glibc can't (currently) handle threads having
>    different keys, but it might be that another libc would prefer per-thread
>    keys. If desired, we could add a mechanism for a thread to re-initialize its
>    keys without an exec*().
>
> * Do we need a separate hwcap for XPAC* instructions?
>
>    Library code performing stack unwinding may need to interoperate with other
>    code which may or may not be using pointer authentication. It may be
>    desirable to use XPAC* rather than attempting authentication and/or acquiring
>    the PAC masks via ptrace.
>
>    As we may expose APIBKey (potentially separately from APIAKey) in future,
>    HWCAP_APIA cannot be used to determine when these instruction can/should be
>    used.
>
> * Should we expose a per-process data key now, to go with the insn key?
>
>    I don't currently have a use-case for this.
>
> * Should we expose generic authentication (i.e. APGAKey)?
>
>    I don't currently have a use-case for this.
>
> * Should the kernel remove PACs when unwinding user stacks?
>
>    This is simple to do, but it's arguably placing a policy in the kernel as to
>    what we expect user stacks to look like. Regardless, userspace will have to
>    perform this when unwinding with DWARF.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
>
> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2017-April/498941.html
> [2] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/linux.git arm64/pointer-auth
> [3] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mark/boot-wrapper-aarch64.git pointer-auth
>
> Mark Rutland (11):
>    arm64: docs: describe ELF hwcaps
>    asm-generic: mm_hooks: allow hooks to be overridden individually
>    arm64: add pointer authentication register bits
>    arm64/cpufeature: add ARMv8.3 id_aa64isar1 bits
>    arm64/cpufeature: detect pointer authentication
>    arm64: Don't trap host pointer auth use to EL2
>    arm64: add basic pointer authentication support
>    arm64: expose user PAC bit positions via ptrace
>    arm64/kvm: preserve host HCR_EL2 value
>    arm64/kvm: context-switch ptrauth registers
>    arm64: docs: document pointer authentication
>
>   Documentation/arm64/booting.txt                |   8 ++
>   Documentation/arm64/elf_hwcaps.txt             | 138 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   Documentation/arm64/pointer-authentication.txt |  85 +++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/Kconfig                             |  23 +++++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/cpucaps.h               |   4 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/esr.h                   |   3 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_arm.h               |   3 +-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h              |  28 ++++-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_hyp.h               |   7 ++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mmu.h                   |   5 +
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mmu_context.h           |  25 ++++-
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/pointer_auth.h          |  97 +++++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/include/asm/sysreg.h                |  30 ++++++
>   arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/hwcap.h            |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h           |   5 +
>   arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c                 |  39 ++++++-
>   arch/arm64/kernel/cpuinfo.c                    |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/kernel/head.S                       |  19 +++-
>   arch/arm64/kernel/ptrace.c                     |  39 +++++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/handle_exit.c                   |  21 ++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/Makefile                    |   1 +
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/ptrauth-sr.c                |  91 ++++++++++++++++
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/switch.c                    |   9 +-
>   arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/tlb.c                       |   6 +-
>   arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c                      |  32 ++++++
>   include/asm-generic/mm_hooks.h                 |  11 ++
>   include/uapi/linux/elf.h                       |   1 +
>   27 files changed, 719 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/arm64/elf_hwcaps.txt
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/arm64/pointer-authentication.txt
>   create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/pointer_auth.h
>   create mode 100644 arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/ptrauth-sr.c
>

-- 
Best Regards
Li Kun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-25 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-19 16:01 [PATCH 00/11] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication userspace support Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 01/11] arm64: docs: describe ELF hwcaps Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-21 17:05   ` Dave Martin
2017-07-21 17:05     ` Dave Martin
2017-07-24 10:47     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-08-03 14:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-08-03 14:49     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-08-03 17:57   ` Kees Cook
2017-08-03 17:57     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 02/11] asm-generic: mm_hooks: allow hooks to be overridden individually Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 03/11] arm64: add pointer authentication register bits Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 04/11] arm64/cpufeature: add ARMv8.3 id_aa64isar1 bits Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-24 10:54   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 05/11] arm64/cpufeature: detect pointer authentication Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 06/11] arm64: Don't trap host pointer auth use to EL2 Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-24 10:37   ` Dave Martin
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 07/11] arm64: add basic pointer authentication support Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-25 15:26   ` Dave Martin
2017-07-25 15:26     ` Dave Martin
2017-08-11  7:46   ` Yao Qi
2017-08-11  8:45     ` Dave Martin
2017-08-11  8:45       ` Dave Martin
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 08/11] arm64: expose user PAC bit positions via ptrace Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 09/11] arm64/kvm: preserve host HCR_EL2 value Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-01 11:00   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 11:00     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 10/11] arm64/kvm: context-switch ptrauth registers Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-01 11:00   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 11:00     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 14:26     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-01 14:32       ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 17:02       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-19 16:01 ` [PATCH 11/11] arm64: docs: document pointer authentication Mark Rutland
2017-07-19 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-21 17:05 ` [PATCH 00/11] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication userspace support Dave Martin
2017-07-21 17:05   ` Dave Martin
2017-07-25 12:06   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-25 12:06     ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-25 14:00     ` Jiong Wang
2017-08-11 11:29     ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-24 11:52 ` Yao Qi
2017-07-25 11:32 ` Yao Qi
2017-07-25 11:32   ` Yao Qi
2017-07-25 16:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-25 14:12 ` Li Kun [this message]
2017-07-25 14:12   ` [kernel-hardening] " Li Kun
2017-07-25 15:12   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-25 15:12     ` Mark Rutland

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