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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 20:39:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c90c79be-f27f-40ae-89ff-c4123b639874@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbf64de9-3b15-40b8-8b9a-dbf05fa3b4c9@lucifer.local>

On 20.05.25 20:25, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 06:47:48PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 05:28:35PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> [snip]
>>>> 3. PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT
>>>>
>>>> It may be desirable for a user to specify that all VMAs mapped in a process
>>>> address space default to having an madvise() behaviour established by
>>>> default, in such a fashion as that this persists across fork/exec.
>>>
>>> This is very specific for MADV_HUGEPAGE only, so I wonder how we could
>>> either avoid that flag or just make it clear that it shall stick around ...
>>>
> 
> Sorry missed this bit.
> 
> I don't really like the idea of only for MADV_HUGEPAGE (and MADV_NOHUGEPAGE)
> defaulting to doing this, I think that's far less clear than a user explicitly
> asking for it, plus most users using process_madvise() wouldn't expect it.

The thing is that PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE already adds something 
unexpected: suddenly also *new* mappings will be affected.

But maybe that'd be covered by the PMADV_SET_DEFAULT idea.

Maybe

PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE | PMADV_SET_DEFAULT | PMADV_SET_EXEC_DEFAULT

... hm, but "PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE" can then simply be "pass in the 
entire address space as a range" ... and ignore errors.

I'd probably have to see a revised proposal after the current discussions.


Anyhow, limiting the flags to a bare minimum for now usually makes 
sense, as long as it is expandable.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-19 20:52 [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: madvise: refactor madvise_populate() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 10:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:32         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SKIP_ERRORS process_madvise() flag Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_NO_ERROR_ON_UNMAPPED " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20  8:38   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 10:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 11:41       ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 13:39         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:11     ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:35         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 22:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-29 14:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 21:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour Jann Horn
2025-05-20  5:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:04     ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 15:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 17:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:24     ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 19:21       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:42         ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 20:15           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:39       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 18:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:49     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 20:39       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 22:02         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21  4:21           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 16:28             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 16:49               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 17:39                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-22 13:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:21                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 20:53                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-26 12:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 16:57               ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:39                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:25                   ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 18:40                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:45                       ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-21 18:11               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 12:45               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:49                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 15:32               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-22 15:47                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21  2:16       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-22 12:12 ` Mike Rapoport

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