From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v10 05/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 09:55:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca1037935d570f70fd8900e18f1c7149298c5bf3.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240604202738.3aab6308@gandalf.local.home>
On Tue, 2024-06-04 at 20:27 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 01:44:37 +0200
> Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>
> > > Interesting, as I sped up the ftrace ring buffer by a substantial amount by
> > > adding strategic __always_inline, noinline, likely() and unlikely()
> > > throughout the code. It had to do with what was considered the fast path
> > > and slow path, and not actually the size of the function. gcc got it
> > > horribly wrong.
> >
> > And what did the compiler people say when you reported gcc was getting
> > it wrong?
> >
> > Our assumption is, the compiler is better than a human at deciding
> > this. Or at least, a human who does not spend a long time profiling
> > and tuning. If this assumption is not true, we probably should be
> > trying to figure out why, and improving the compiler when
> > possible. That will benefit everybody.
> >
>
> How is the compiler going to know which path is going to be taken the most?
> There's two main paths in the ring buffer logic. One when an event stays on
> the sub-buffer, the other when the event crosses over to a new sub buffer.
> As there's 100s of events that happen on the same sub-buffer for every one
> time there's a cross over, I optimized the paths that stayed on the
> sub-buffer, which caused the time for those events to go from 250ns down to
> 150 ns!. That's a 40% speed up.
>
> I added the unlikely/likely and 'always_inline' and 'noinline' paths to
> make sure the "staying on the buffer" path was always the hot path, and
> keeping it tight in cache.
>
> How is a compiler going to know that?
>
> -- Steve
>
Isn't this basically a perfect example of something where profile
guided optimization should work?
Thanks,
Niklas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-07 7:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-30 20:15 [PATCH net-next v10 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 01/14] netdev: add netdev_rx_queue_restart() Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 23:51 ` David Wei
2024-06-03 12:52 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2024-06-01 5:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-03 14:17 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-03 14:52 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-03 15:43 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-07 13:42 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 14:27 ` David Ahern
2024-06-07 14:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10 0:37 ` David Wei
2024-06-10 1:07 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 12:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10 12:38 ` Christian König
2024-06-10 15:41 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-10 19:32 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 16:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-06-11 6:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 8:21 ` Christian König
2024-06-10 15:16 ` David Ahern
2024-06-10 19:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 22:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-11 18:09 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-12 12:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-12 15:47 ` David Ahern
2024-06-17 19:15 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-11 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 17:48 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-07 15:42 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 15:46 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 16:59 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-10 1:12 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 0:27 ` David Wei
2024-06-05 8:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-07 13:45 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-11 6:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-17 18:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-18 6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-18 11:40 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-05 8:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 03/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 04/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 05/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-04 16:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04 16:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-04 16:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04 23:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-05 0:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-05 0:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-06 1:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-07 7:55 ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 06/14] page_pool: convert to use netmem Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:23 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-06 1:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-07 12:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 07/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 08/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 09/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 10/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:46 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-06 16:49 ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-06 16:58 ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 11/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:53 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 12/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 13/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-06-01 13:09 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 14/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
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