From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@linaro.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, andersson@kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
mojha@qti.qualcomm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, jonechou@google.com,
tudor.ambarus@linaro.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register information into Kmemdump
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 14:17:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cab1db60-e7bc-4f31-b781-c52ad1b24da6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94f537ae-c2b1-4928-a3f3-6449c30cb624@linaro.org>
On 01.09.25 14:02, Eugen Hristev wrote:
>
>
> On 9/1/25 13:01, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>
>>>> Looks a bit over-engineered, and will require us to import a header
>>>> (likely kmemdump.h) in these files, which I don't really enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> I would start simple, without any such macro-magic. It's a very simple
>>>> function after all, and likely you won't end up having many of these?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks David, I will do it as you suggested and see what comes out of it.
>>>
>>> I have one side question you might know much better to answer:
>>> As we have a start and a size for each region, this start is a virtual
>>> address. The firmware/coprocessor that reads the memory and dumps it,
>>> requires physical addresses.
>>
>> Right. I was asking myself the same question while reviewing: should we
>> directly export physical ranges here instead of virtual ones. I guess
>> virtual ones is ok.
>
> In patch 22/29, some areas are registered using
> memblock_phys_alloc_try_nid() which allocates physical.
> In this case , phys_to_virt() didn't work for me, it was returning a
> wrong address. I used __va() and this worked. So there is a difference
> between them.
memblock_alloc_internal() calls memblock_alloc_range_nid() to then
perform a phys_to_virt().
memblock_phys_alloc_try_nid() calls memblock_alloc_range_nid() without
the phys_to_virt().
So it's rather surprising the a phys_to_virt() would not work in that case.
Maybe for these cases where you export the area through a new helper,
you can just export the physical addr + length instead.
Then, it's also clear that this area is actually physically contiguous.
>
>>
>> What do you suggest to use to retrieve that
>>> address ? virt_to_phys might be problematic, __pa or __pa_symbol? or
>>> better lm_alias ?
>>
>> All areas should either come from memblock or be global variables, right?
>
> I would like to be able to register from anywhere. For example someone
> debugging their driver, to just register kmalloc'ed struct.
> Other use case is to register dma coherent CMA areas.
Then probably better to export physical addresses (that you need either
way) directly from the helpers you have to add.
>
>>
>> IIRC, virt_to_phys() should work for these. Did you run into any
>> problems with them or why do you think virt_to_phys could be problematic?
>>
>
> I am pondering about whether it would work in all cases, considering
> it's source code comments that it shall not be used because it does not
> work for any address.
Yeah, it does for example not work for kernel stacks IIRC.
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-01 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-24 13:54 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/29] kmemdump: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-26 3:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-26 3:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/29] Documentation: add kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 14:13 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/29] kmemdump: add coreimage ELF layer Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/29] Documentation: kmemdump: add section for coreimage ELF Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/29] kmemdump: introduce qcom-minidump backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/29] soc: qcom: smem: add minidump device Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/29] init/version: Annotate static information into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/29] cpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/29] genirq/irqdesc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/29] panic: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/29] sched/core: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/29] timers: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/29] kernel/fork: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/29] mm/page_alloc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/29] mm/init-mm: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/29] mm/show_mem: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 14:04 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/29] mm/swapfile: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/29] mm/percpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/29] mm/mm_init: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/29] printk: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/29] kernel/configs: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 13:57 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 10:54 ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 11:06 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 12:29 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 13:03 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 13:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 12:55 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 13:36 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 11:59 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 12:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 14:08 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 20:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 8:57 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 10:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:02 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-04 12:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 23/29] mm/sparse: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 24/29] kernel/vmcore_info: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 25/29] kmemdump: Add additional symbols to the coreimage Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 26/29] init/version: Annotate init uts name separately into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 27/29] kallsyms: Annotate static information " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 28/29] mm/init-mm: Annotate additional " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 29/29] kmemdump: Add Kinfo backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-08-26 17:14 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Mukesh Ojha
2025-08-27 6:42 ` Eugen Hristev
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=cab1db60-e7bc-4f31-b781-c52ad1b24da6@redhat.com \
--to=david@redhat.com \
--cc=andersson@kernel.org \
--cc=corbet@lwn.net \
--cc=eugen.hristev@linaro.org \
--cc=hch@infradead.org \
--cc=jonechou@google.com \
--cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=mhocko@suse.com \
--cc=mojha@qti.qualcomm.com \
--cc=pmladek@suse.com \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=senozhatsky@chromium.org \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=tudor.ambarus@linaro.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).