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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@linaro.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, andersson@kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	mojha@qti.qualcomm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, jonechou@google.com,
	tudor.ambarus@linaro.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register information into Kmemdump
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 14:17:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cab1db60-e7bc-4f31-b781-c52ad1b24da6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94f537ae-c2b1-4928-a3f3-6449c30cb624@linaro.org>

On 01.09.25 14:02, Eugen Hristev wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/1/25 13:01, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>
>>>> Looks a bit over-engineered, and will require us to import a header
>>>> (likely kmemdump.h) in these files, which I don't really enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> I would start simple, without any such macro-magic. It's a very simple
>>>> function after all, and likely you won't end up having many of these?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks David, I will do it as you suggested and see what comes out of it.
>>>
>>> I have one side question you might know much better to answer:
>>> As we have a start and a size for each region, this start is a virtual
>>> address. The firmware/coprocessor that reads the memory and dumps it,
>>> requires physical addresses.
>>
>> Right. I was asking myself the same question while reviewing: should we
>> directly export physical ranges here instead of virtual ones. I guess
>> virtual ones is ok.
> 
> In patch 22/29, some areas are registered using
> memblock_phys_alloc_try_nid() which allocates physical.
> In this case , phys_to_virt() didn't work for me, it was returning a
> wrong address. I used __va() and this worked. So there is a difference
> between them.

memblock_alloc_internal() calls memblock_alloc_range_nid() to then 
perform a phys_to_virt().

memblock_phys_alloc_try_nid() calls memblock_alloc_range_nid() without 
the phys_to_virt().

So it's rather surprising the a phys_to_virt() would not work in that case.

Maybe for these cases where you export the area through a new helper, 
you can just export the physical addr + length instead.

Then, it's also clear that this area is actually physically contiguous.

> 
>>
>> What do you suggest to use to retrieve that
>>> address ? virt_to_phys might be problematic, __pa or __pa_symbol? or
>>> better lm_alias ?
>>
>> All areas should either come from memblock or be global variables, right?
> 
> I would like to be able to register from anywhere. For example someone
> debugging their driver, to just register kmalloc'ed struct.
> Other use case is to register dma coherent CMA areas.

Then probably better to export physical addresses (that you need either 
way) directly from the helpers you have to add.

> 
>>
>> IIRC, virt_to_phys() should work for these. Did you run into any
>> problems with them or why do you think virt_to_phys could be problematic?
>>
> 
> I am pondering about whether it would work in all cases, considering
> it's source code comments that it shall not be used because it does not
> work for any address.

Yeah, it does for example not work for kernel stacks IIRC.

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24 13:54 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/29] kmemdump: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-26  3:33   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-26  3:36   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/29] Documentation: add kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 14:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/29] kmemdump: add coreimage ELF layer Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/29] Documentation: kmemdump: add section for coreimage ELF Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/29] kmemdump: introduce qcom-minidump backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/29] soc: qcom: smem: add minidump device Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/29] init/version: Annotate static information into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/29] cpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/29] genirq/irqdesc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/29] panic: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/29] sched/core: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/29] timers: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/29] kernel/fork: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/29] mm/page_alloc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/29] mm/init-mm: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/29] mm/show_mem: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 14:04     ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/29] mm/swapfile: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/29] mm/percpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/29] mm/mm_init: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/29] printk: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/29] kernel/configs: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:52   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 13:57     ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 10:54         ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 11:06           ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 12:29               ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:49                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 13:03                   ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 13:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 12:55                       ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:20                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 13:36                           ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:58                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 11:59                               ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 12:18                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 14:08                                   ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 20:06                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01  8:57                                       ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 10:01                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:02                                           ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 12:17                                             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-04 12:16           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 23/29] mm/sparse: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 24/29] kernel/vmcore_info: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 25/29] kmemdump: Add additional symbols to the coreimage Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 26/29] init/version: Annotate init uts name separately into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 27/29] kallsyms: Annotate static information " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 28/29] mm/init-mm: Annotate additional " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 29/29] kmemdump: Add Kinfo backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-08-26 17:14 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Mukesh Ojha
2025-08-27  6:42   ` Eugen Hristev

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