From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Cc: mpe@ellerman.id.au, mingo@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
corbet@lwn.net, arnd@arndb.de, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
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aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, bsingharora@gmail.com,
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ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 29/51] mm/mprotect, powerpc/mm/pkeys, x86/mm/pkeys: Add sysfs interface
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:28:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7971d03-6ad1-40d5-9b79-f01242db5293@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171218221850.GD5461@ram.oc3035372033.ibm.com>
On 12/18/2017 02:18 PM, Ram Pai wrote:
> b) minimum number of keys available to the application.
> if libraries consumes a few, they could provide a library
> interface to the application informing the number available to
> the application. The library interface can leverage (b) to
> provide the information.
OK, let's see a real user of this including a few libraries. Then we'll
put it in the kernel.
> c) types of disable-rights supported by keys.
> Helps the application to determine the types of disable-features
> available. This is helpful, otherwise the app has to
> make pkey_alloc() call with the corresponding parameter set
> and see if it suceeds or fails. Painful from an application
> point of view, in my opinion.
Again, let's see a real-world use of this. How does it look? How does
an app "fall back" if it can't set a restriction the way it wants to?
Are we *sure* that such an interface makes sense? For instance, will it
be possible for some keys to be execute-disable while other are only
write-disable?
> I think on x86 you look for some hardware registers to determine which
> hardware features are enabled by the kernel.
No, we use CPUID. It's a part of the ISA that's designed for
enumerating CPU and (sometimes) OS support for CPU features.
> We do not have generic support for something like that on ppc.
> The kernel looks at the device tree to determine what hardware features
> are available. But does not have mechanism to tell the hardware to track
> which of its features are currently enabled/used by the kernel; atleast
> not for the memory-key feature.
Bummer. You're missing out.
But, you could still do this with a syscall. "Hey, kernel, do you
support this feature?"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-18 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-06 8:56 [PATCH v9 00/51] powerpc, mm: Memory Protection Keys Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 01/51] mm, powerpc, x86: define VM_PKEY_BITx bits if CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PKEYS is enabled Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 02/51] mm, powerpc, x86: introduce an additional vma bit for powerpc pkey Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 03/51] powerpc: initial pkey plumbing Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 04/51] powerpc: track allocation status of all pkeys Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 05/51] powerpc: helper function to read,write AMR,IAMR,UAMOR registers Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 06/51] powerpc: helper functions to initialize AMR, IAMR and UAMOR registers Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` [PATCH v9 07/51] powerpc: cleanup AMR, IAMR when a key is allocated or freed Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:56 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 08/51] powerpc: implementation for arch_set_user_pkey_access() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 09/51] powerpc: ability to create execute-disabled pkeys Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 10/51] powerpc: store and restore the pkey state across context switches Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 11/51] powerpc: introduce execute-only pkey Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 12/51] powerpc: ability to associate pkey to a vma Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 13/51] powerpc: implementation for arch_override_mprotect_pkey() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 14/51] powerpc: map vma key-protection bits to pte key bits Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 15/51] powerpc: Program HPTE key protection bits Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 16/51] powerpc: helper to validate key-access permissions of a pte Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 17/51] powerpc: check key protection for user page access Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 18/51] powerpc: implementation for arch_vma_access_permitted() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 19/51] powerpc: Handle exceptions caused by pkey violation Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 20/51] powerpc: introduce get_mm_addr_key() helper Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 21/51] powerpc: Deliver SEGV signal on pkey violation Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 22/51] powerpc/ptrace: Add memory protection key regset Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 23/51] powerpc: Enable pkey subsystem Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-13 0:54 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-13 0:54 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 24/51] powerpc: sys_pkey_alloc() and sys_pkey_free() system calls Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 25/51] powerpc: sys_pkey_mprotect() system call Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 26/51] powerpc: add sys_pkey_modify() " Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 27/51] mm, x86 : introduce arch_pkeys_enabled() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 28/51] mm: display pkey in smaps if arch_pkeys_enabled() is true Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 29/51] mm/mprotect, powerpc/mm/pkeys, x86/mm/pkeys: Add sysfs interface Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-18 18:54 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-18 18:54 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-18 22:18 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-18 22:18 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-18 22:28 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2017-12-18 23:15 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-18 23:15 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-19 8:31 ` Gabriel Paubert
2017-12-19 8:31 ` Gabriel Paubert
2017-12-19 16:22 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-19 16:22 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-19 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-12-19 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-12-20 17:50 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-20 22:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-12-20 22:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-12-19 10:50 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-19 10:50 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-19 16:32 ` Ram Pai
2017-12-19 16:32 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 30/51] Documentation/x86: Move protecton key documentation to arch neutral directory Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 31/51] Documentation/vm: PowerPC specific updates to memory protection keys Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 32/51] selftest/x86: Move protecton key selftest to arch neutral directory Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 33/51] selftest/vm: rename all references to pkru to a generic name Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 34/51] selftest/vm: move generic definitions to header file Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 35/51] selftest/vm: typecast the pkey register Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 36/51] selftest/vm: generic function to handle shadow key register Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 37/51] selftest/vm: fix the wrong assert in pkey_disable_set() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 38/51] selftest/vm: fixed bugs in pkey_disable_clear() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 39/51] selftest/vm: clear the bits in shadow reg when a pkey is freed Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 40/51] selftest/vm: fix alloc_random_pkey() to make it really random Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 41/51] selftest/vm: introduce two arch independent abstraction Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 42/51] selftest/vm: pkey register should match shadow pkey Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 43/51] selftest/vm: generic cleanup Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 44/51] selftest/vm: powerpc implementation for generic abstraction Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-09 18:47 ` Breno Leitao
2017-11-09 18:47 ` Breno Leitao
2017-11-09 23:37 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-09 23:37 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-10 11:36 ` Breno Leitao
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 45/51] selftest/vm: fix an assertion in test_pkey_alloc_exhaust() Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 46/51] selftest/vm: associate key on a mapped page and detect access violation Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 47/51] selftest/vm: associate key on a mapped page and detect write violation Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 48/51] selftest/vm: detect write violation on a mapped access-denied-key page Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 49/51] selftest/vm: sub-page allocator Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 50/51] selftests/powerpc: Add ptrace tests for Protection Key register Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` [PATCH v9 51/51] selftests/powerpc: Add core file test " Ram Pai
2017-11-06 8:57 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-06 21:28 ` [PATCH v9 00/51] powerpc, mm: Memory Protection Keys Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 21:28 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 1:22 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-07 1:22 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-07 7:32 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 22:39 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-07 22:39 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-07 22:47 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-07 22:47 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-07 23:44 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-07 23:44 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-09 22:23 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-09 22:23 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-10 18:10 ` Christophe LEROY
2017-11-10 18:10 ` Christophe LEROY
2017-11-12 20:45 ` Ram Pai
2017-11-12 20:45 ` Ram Pai
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