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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 32/46] mm/memory_hotplug: avoid races in pfn_to_online_page() with dying pgmap
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 12:32:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa0f07af-e8d7-44b0-b1e7-ad325d75ac34@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87e3d64e-8b25-4d51-a984-7ab8a58f785d@kernel.org>



On 2026/10/28 03:41, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> LLM stumbled upon a possible race in kpage_read() ...
>>
>> Say the reader passes pfn_section_valid() for a device PFN in a section
>> shared with online RAM, gets preempted, and resumes after
>> pgmap_array_delete(). We'd then find no pgmap and return pfn_to_page(pfn),
>> even though the subsection is no longer valid ...
> 
> I think that's similar to our pfn_to_online_page() vs. memory offlining races,
> just slightly different. Getting these races down to 0 is pretty hard.
> 
> This patch here tries to do better and arguably almost looks like a cleanup.
> 
> I wouldn't worry about that one for now; it's extremely unlikely to hit. And it'

Ack.

>>
>> Could we take the memory hotplug read lock in kpage_read(), covering both
>> the lookup and the metadata reads? We can drop it before put_user(), once
>> we're done with the page.
>>
>> Maybe along these lines?
>>
>> ---8<---
>> diff --git a/fs/proc/page.c b/fs/proc/page.c
>> index 6aa99e42ec22..12bed36d76dc 100644
>> --- a/fs/proc/page.c
>> +++ b/fs/proc/page.c
>> @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
>>   #include <linux/hugetlb.h>
>>   #include <linux/memremap.h>
>>   #include <linux/memcontrol.h>
>> +#include <linux/memory_hotplug.h>
>>   #include <linux/mmu_notifier.h>
>>   #include <linux/page_idle.h>
>>   #include <linux/kernel-page-flags.h>
>> @@ -77,6 +78,8 @@ static ssize_t kpage_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf,
>>   	count = min_t(unsigned long, count, (max_dump_pfn * KPMSIZE) - src);
>>
>>   	while (count > 0) {
>> +		/* Prevent memory removal while inspecting the memmap. */
>> +		get_online_mems();
> get_online_mems() is the big hammer we try to avoid (or ideally remove at some
> point). And it's most pfn_to_online_page() users that are affected.
> 
> A seqcount in pfn_to_online_page() could detect concurrent pgmap removal and
> retry from the start. But I'd rather delay something like that.

Fair enough, let's leave it alone for now given how unlikely it is to hit :)

> Thanks for taking a look! (Can I convince you to review some of the THP fixes?
> pleeeeaaasseee :) )

Of coursssssssse! I'm already looking through the THP fixes :D

Cheers, Lance


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-28  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-26 23:17 [PATCH 00/46] mm: various (urgent?) fixes David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 01/46] mm/mglru: don't use stack pointers when walking PUD and PMD tables David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  1:32   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27  3:05   ` Qi Zheng
2026-10-27  7:20   ` Dev Jain
2026-10-27  8:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27 19:06     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 16:54       ` Kairui Song
2026-10-27 10:22   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-27 20:07   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-27 20:24   ` Barry Song
2026-10-28  8:24   ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-28 10:29   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-28 16:09   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 02/46] fork: take mmap_lock before copying mm_struct David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  1:38   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27  8:18   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-27  9:45   ` Barry Song
2026-10-27 10:38   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 19:07     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 19:48       ` Barry Song
2026-10-28  8:20         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 12:55         ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 13:56   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-28 16:19   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 03/46] mm/memfd: check for real shmem inodes before accessing shmem state David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  2:04   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27  8:13   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-10-27 13:42     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 14:41   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-10-28 16:53   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 04/46] mm/memfd: make f_pos accesses atomic David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  2:06   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27  3:34   ` Gregory Price
2026-10-27  8:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27 19:09     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  8:15   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-10-27  8:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27 10:39   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-28 16:40   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 16:55   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 05/46] mm/truncate: look again if a folio left the mapping David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  2:17   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-28 16:54   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 06/46] mm/filemap: read mapping->a_ops->free_folio under i_lock David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  2:43   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27 19:10     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 15:47   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 07/46] mm/filemap: don't lose a folio lock wakeup to a signal David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  3:03   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-27 16:10   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 19:18     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  2:17       ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-27 22:02     ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 08/46] mm/filemap: finish fault cleanup before dropping the fault lock David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 19:26   ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 09/46] mm/rmap: handle device-exclusive entries in folio_referenced_one() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 20:25   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-27 21:22   ` Barry Song
2026-10-28  7:51   ` Dev Jain
2026-10-28  8:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  9:09       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 10/46] mm/huge_memory: fix list corruption when deferred_split_scan() races with deferred_split_folio() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 14:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-10-27 15:15     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 18:03       ` Mani Tofigh
2026-10-27 19:19         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  0:14   ` Mani Tofigh
2026-10-28 10:41   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 11/46] mm/huge_memory: properly handle refcounted PUD mappings on fork David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 21:10   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-28 13:05   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-28 13:12   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 12/46] mm/huge_memory: fix livelock on device private folio David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  2:08   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-28 15:04   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 13/46] mm/huge_memory: fix truncate racing with PMD zapping David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  2:54   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-28  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 12:43   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-28 15:54   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 14/46] mm/huge_memory: fix zapping migration entries for device-private THPs David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  2:58   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-28  8:25   ` Dev Jain
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 15/46] mm/khugepaged: always recheck the pmd in try_collapse_pte_mapped_thp() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 16/46] mm/khugepaged: fix PMD table lock leak " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 17/46] mm/khugepaged: preserve dirty bits when collapsing PTE-mapped THPs David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 13:30   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 18/46] mm/khugepaged: check if PTE table is empty in try_collapse_pte_mapped_thp() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 19/46] mm/gup: recheck the PUD under PTL in follow_pud_mask() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 20/46] mm/gup: fix clearing folios in memfd_pin_folios() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 15:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-10-27 19:20     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 11:40       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-10-27 19:43   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 21/46] mm/gup: fix out-of-bounds write for nr_pages == 0 in GUP-fast David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27  9:40   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 22/46] mm/gup: check for overflow when converting nr_pages to bytes " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27  9:44   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 21:31   ` Barry Song
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 23/46] mm/userfaultfd: write-lock the VMA before waking waiters when unregistering David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  8:16   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-10-27  8:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27 17:38     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-10-27 19:21     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 24/46] mm/userfaultfd: wake all waiters on unregister David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  8:17   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-10-27  8:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 25/46] mm/userfaultfd: wake waiters when registration modes are removed David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  5:10   ` Gregory Price
2026-10-27  8:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27 19:31       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  8:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-10-27  8:31   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 26/46] mm/mmu_gather: fix flushing ranges with 4 GiB or larger David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  3:06   ` Qi Zheng
2026-10-27  3:40   ` Gregory Price
2026-10-27  7:35   ` Dev Jain
2026-10-27 19:25     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:50   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 15:42   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 27/46] mm/mmu_notifier: finish non-blocking interval invalidation on error David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 28/46] mm/mmu_notifier: set ->mm only after mmgrab() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  3:42   ` Gregory Price
2026-10-27  8:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 29/46] mm/mremap: use pudp_huge_get_and_clear() when moving huge PUDs David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 13:28   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 30/46] mm/mremap: recheck PUDs under the page table lock David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 13:26   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 31/46] mm/mremap: fix moving PUD leaves David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28 13:20   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 32/46] mm/memory_hotplug: avoid races in pfn_to_online_page() with dying pgmap David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 12:13   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-27 19:41     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  4:32       ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 33/46] mm/madvise: fix data loss from MADV_FREE on a KSM page David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 34/46] mm/memory: reject remote COW faults on PFN mappings David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 16:34   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 35/46] mm: fix unmap_mapping_range() beyond 4 GiB on 32-bit David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 16:27   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 36/46] mm: fix unkillable fault loop on MAP_DROPPABLE memory David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 37/46] mm: fix deadlock of mremap() against UFFDIO_MOVE David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27  9:46   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 38/46] mm/ksm: reset the unstable trees of all nodes David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-28 16:56   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-10-26 23:17 ` [PATCH 39/46] mm/ksm: fix use of a freed anon_vma at swap-in David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 40/46] mm/ksm: check large swap-cache folios before mapping them David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  9:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 41/46] mm/vma: call ->may_split() before a partial merge David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  3:45   ` Gregory Price
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 42/46] mm/huge_memory: split huge PUDs when adjusting VMA boundaries David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 43/46] mm/vma: don't leak the charge for stack growth David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 16:25   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-27 20:32   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-28  8:18     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 44/46] mm/cma: don't release CMA pages still in use David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27  8:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-27  9:48   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 45/46] mm/memory-tiers: unregister empty tiers outside memory_tier_lock David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:18 ` [PATCH 46/46] fs/proc/task_mmu: refuse addresses beyond 32 bits on 32bit David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 16:13   ` Pedro Falcato

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