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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@mailbox.org>
To: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>
Cc: arm-scmi@vger.kernel.org, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Document arm,poll-transport property
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 12:34:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <032bfb41-413d-4d59-aa66-7f109af4422d@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRW7BZimWdpq4TyX@pluto>

On 11/13/25 12:03 PM, Cristian Marussi wrote:

Hello Cristian,

> bit of a late reply...

No worries, I am buried under email myself, take your time.

>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 02:35:57PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>>> Document new property arm,poll-transport, which sets all SCMI
>>>>> operation into
>>>>> poll mode. This is meant to work around uncooperative SCP
>>>>> implementations,
>>>>> which do not generate completion interrupts. This applies
>>>>> primarily on mbox
>>>>> based implementations, but does also cover SMC and VirtIO ones.
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ..indeed I was thinking a while ago about exposing the existing
>>>> force- polling
>>>> switch but in my case it was purely a testing-scenario
>>>> configuration, so a
>>>> no-no for the DT, things are different if you have to describe an HW
>>>> that has
>>>> no completion IRQ also on the a2p channel...
>>>
>>> Correct, at least until the SCP on this hardware is updated.
>>>
>>>> ...having said that, though, usually polling-mode is reserved to a few
>>>> selected commands in a few chosen scenarios (as you may have seen),
>>>> 'carpet-polling' non-for-testing for all the commands on A2P seems a lot
>>>> inefficient and heavy...is it really a viable solution ? or these
>>>> systems use such a low rate of SCMI messages that polling after each and
>>>> every message is negligible ?
>>>>
>>>> ..just to understand the context...
>>>
>>> These systems are early in development and it is likely that the SCP
>>> will be updated to generate interrupts properly. Currently, this is not
>>> the case, hence the carpet-polling, until this is resolved.
>>
>> While I was going through the SCMI spec, DEN0056F , page 209 , section "4.1
>> Shared memory based transport" , bullet • Completion interrupts, I found it
>> explicitly states:
>>
>> "
>> This transport supports polling or interrupt driven modes of communication.
>> In interrupt mode, when the callee completes processing a message, it raises
>> an interrupt to the caller. Hardware support for completion interrupts is
>> optional.
>> "
> 
> Oh, yes...I knew that...it is just that till now, no systems were really
> ever developed that lacked the completion IRQ as a whole, it was, till now,
> more of a case of having the capability NOT to use it selectively at runtime
> and instead use polling when wanted (like for clock ops in ISR context)
> 
> I am not sure what is the reason why this only-polling scenario was never
> supported in the HW description, this indeed pre-dates my work on SCMI....
> ...I would/will check with Sudeep, when he's back, what are the reasons for
> this (if any)...

Thank you !

-- 
Best regards,
Marek Vasut


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-23 12:35 [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Document arm,poll-transport property Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 12:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] firmware: arm_scmi: Implement " Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Document " Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-23 13:19   ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 13:16 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-10-23 13:42   ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 14:30     ` Cristian Marussi
2025-10-23 14:36       ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 14:36     ` Sudeep Holla
2025-10-23 14:47       ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 13:42   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-10-23 13:57     ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-23 13:45 ` Cristian Marussi
2025-10-23 14:00   ` Marek Vasut
2025-10-30  0:52     ` Marek Vasut
2025-11-13 11:03       ` Cristian Marussi
2025-11-13 11:34         ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2025-11-14  7:21         ` Wolfram Sang

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