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From: Jaikiran Pai <jai.forums2013@gmail.com>
To: D Scott Phillips <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	"Rob Herring (Arm)" <robh@kernel.org>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Shiqi Liu <shiqiliu@hust.edu.cn>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] arm64: errata: Work around AmpereOne's erratum AC04_CPU_23
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 07:15:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f6fe0c6-7c11-4f16-bed4-db4de675b002@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bjl0o9yd.fsf@scott-ph-mail.amperecomputing.com>


On 17/11/25 10:47 pm, D Scott Phillips wrote:
> Jaikiran Pai <jai.forums2013@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hello Scott,
>>
>> On 14/05/25 12:15 am, D Scott Phillips wrote:
>>> On AmpereOne AC04, updates to HCR_EL2 can rarely corrupt simultaneous
>>> translations for data addresses initiated by load/store instructions.
>>> Only instruction initiated translations are vulnerable, not translations
>>> from prefetches for example. A DSB before the store to HCR_EL2 is
>>> sufficient to prevent older instructions from hitting the window for
>>> corruption, and an ISB after is sufficient to prevent younger
>>> instructions from hitting the window for corruption.
>> I see that this patch enables the workaround only for AmpereOne AC04
>> systems. Do you happen to know if the underlying issue for which this
>> patch was introduced, impacts (or can impact) AmpereOne AC03 systems too:
> Hi Jaikiran, this issue impacts ac04 only, it is not present on ac03.


Thank you Scott for the quick confirmation.

We have been investigating an issue on AC03 (running Oracle Linux as a 
VM) where some memory writes (stores) are lost especially when the OS 
appears to have accumulated high buf/cache usage (monitored through free 
-h). That investigation, backed by a trivial C reproducer, is still 
ongoing and we are trying to understand what could be causing it. The 
issue description here made us curious whether it's the same issue we 
are running into and since this patch wasn't applied on AC03, we decided 
to check once.

While at it, if you have any inputs (tools/commands) that you typically 
use to narrow down such issues, I would be happy to experiment with if 
feasible. Right now we are focusing on the kernel itself and checking 
which specific kernel versions can reproduce it. We have been able to 
reproduce it consistently on 5.15.x and 5.16.x and we plan to try it 
with other kernel versions all the way upto 6.12. That should tell us if 
the issue we are encountering has already been addressed in any specific 
kernel version.

Given that you noted this patch isn't relevant for AC03, I don't plan to 
further reply-all to this PATCH discussion, but if you would like me to 
keep you updated with this investigation (I would love to get some 
inputs and provide updates as we go along) then please let me know and I 
will communicate with you over your email (or any other relevant forum 
you suggest).

Thank you again for the quick response.

-Jaikiran



      reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13 18:45 [PATCH v4] arm64: errata: Work around AmpereOne's erratum AC04_CPU_23 D Scott Phillips
2025-05-19 10:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-05-19 11:13   ` Will Deacon
2025-05-19 11:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-05-23 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-23 15:00   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-05-23 15:15     ` Mark Brown
2025-11-16 11:01 ` Jaikiran Pai
2025-11-17 17:17   ` D Scott Phillips
2025-11-18  1:45     ` Jaikiran Pai [this message]

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