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From: Nick Chan <towinchenmi@gmail.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, asahi@lists.linux.dev,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] arm64: cpufeature: Pretend that Apple A10 family does not support 32-bit EL0
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:00:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <110df06f-a598-4ffc-97c9-372a0fb858dc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuhPIdnx36yXJhHi@arm.com>



Catalin Marinas 於 2024/9/16 晚上11:30 寫道:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 09:41:12PM +0800, Nick Chan wrote:
>> On 9/9/2024 17:10, Nick Chan wrote:
>>> The Apple A10 family consists of physical performance and efficiency
>>> cores, and only one of them can be active at a given time depending on
>>> the current p-state. However, only the performance cores can execute
>>> 32-bit EL0. This results in logical cores that can only execute 32-bit
>>> EL0 in high p-states.
>>
>> Further research shows that the MPIDR_EL1 values between the two core
>> types are different. And whether the two core type have any extra
>> differences is anyone's guess right now. So far, nothing seems to break
>> horribly without special workarounds for the MPIDR value (with cpufreq
>> enabled downstream) as:
>> 1. There are no KVM, GIC, ACPI, PSCI or cpuidle
>> 2. All CPUs switch P-mode and E-mode together
>>
>> However, all of this is broken enough that this piece of code should go
>> into arch/arm64/kernel/cpu_errata.c, and also generate a
>> TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC for these cursed CPUs.
> 
> I wouldn't carry any additional logic in the kernel for such
> configuration (long time ago Arm had something similar, the big.LITTLE
> switcher, but the CPUs were fairly similar from a feature perspective).
This is fine from a functionality perspective, currently nothing that
accesses MPIDR after boot is used on A10(X). However, it does not sound
right either to not note that the kernel is running on a cursed CPU.

> 
>>> Trying to support 32-bit EL0 on a CPU that can only execute it in certain
>>> states is a bad idea. The A10 family only supports 16KB page size anyway
>>> so many AArch32 executables won't run anyways. Pretend that it does not
>>> support 32-bit EL0 at all.
> 
> CONFIG_COMPAT depends on ARM64_4K_PAGES || EXPERT. Do we really need
> these patches in case one enables EXPERT and tries to run 32-bit
> binaries that never ran on 16K pages before?
The worst thing that can happen is the 32-bit process crashes with illegal
instruction, the kernel will still be fine.

> 

Nick Chan



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-16 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-09  9:09 [PATCH v2 0/2] Disable 32-bit EL0 for Apple A10(X), T2 Nick Chan
2024-09-09  9:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] arm64: cputype: Add CPU types for A7-A11, T2 SoCs Nick Chan
2024-09-09  9:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] arm64: cpufeature: Pretend that Apple A10 family does not support 32-bit EL0 Nick Chan
2024-09-16 13:41   ` Nick Chan
2024-09-16 15:30     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-16 16:00       ` Nick Chan [this message]
2024-09-16 16:24         ` Catalin Marinas

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