* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 11:52 [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 12:41 ` David John
2009-08-21 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
` (4 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: David John @ 2009-08-21 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On 08/21/2009 05:22 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
>
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Sanders <vince@kyllikki.org>
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 60299a9..24f6134 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -497,7 +497,7 @@ F: arch/arm/include/asm/floppy.h
>
> ARM PORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/
> @@ -508,51 +508,51 @@ F: drivers/mmc/host/mmci.*
>
> ARM/ADI ROADRUNNER MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-ixp23xx/
> F: arch/arm/mach-ixp23xx/include/mach/
>
> ARM/ADS SPHERE MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/AFEB9260 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/AJECO 1ARM MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/ATMEL AT91RM9200 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://maxim.org.za/at91_26.html
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CIRRUS LOGIC EP93XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CIRRUS LOGIC EDB9315A MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CLKDEV SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> F: arch/arm/common/clkdev.c
> F: arch/arm/include/asm/clkdev.h
>
> ARM/COMPULAB CM-X270/EM-X270 and CM-X300 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CORGI MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -561,14 +561,14 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CORTINA SYSTEMS GEMINI ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@teltonika.lt>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://gitorious.org/linux-gemini/mainline.git
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-gemini/
>
> ARM/EBSA110 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-ebsa110/
> @@ -586,13 +586,13 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx.c
>
> ARM/FARADAY FA526 PORT
> M: Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@teltonika.lt>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mm/*-fa*
>
> ARM/FOOTBRIDGE ARCHITECTURE
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/include/asm/hardware/dec21285.h
> @@ -600,17 +600,17 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-footbridge/
>
> ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/GLOMATION GESBC9312SX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/GUMSTIX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Steve Sakoman <sakoman@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/H4700 (HP IPAQ HX4700) MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -630,55 +630,55 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-sa1100/include/mach/jornada720.h
> ARM/INTEL IOP32X ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IOP33X ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IOP13XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IQ81342EX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IXP2000 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL IXDP2850 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL IXP23XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL XSC3 (MANZANO) ARM CORE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/IP FABRICS DOUBLE ESPRESSO MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/LOGICPD PXA270 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/MAGICIAN MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/MIOA701 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701.c
> S: Maintained
>
> @@ -728,18 +728,18 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/PT DIGITAL BOARD PORT
> M: Stefan Eletzhofer <stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/RADISYS ENP2611 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/RISCPC ARCHITECTURE
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/common/time-acorn.c
> @@ -758,7 +758,7 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/SAMSUNG ARM ARCHITECTURES
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/plat-s3c/
> @@ -766,65 +766,65 @@ F: arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/
>
> ARM/S3C2410 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2410/
>
> ARM/S3C2440 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/
>
> ARM/S3C2442 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/
>
> ARM/S3C2443 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2443/
>
> ARM/S3C6400 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c6400/
>
> ARM/S3C6410 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c6410/
>
> ARM/TECHNOLOGIC SYSTEMS TS7250 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/THECUS N2100 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/NUVOTON W90X900 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Wan ZongShun <mcuos.com@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.mcuos.com
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/VFP SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/vfp/
> @@ -923,7 +923,7 @@ F: include/linux/atm*
>
> ATMEL AT91 MCI DRIVER
> M: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.atmel.com/products/AT91/
> W: http://www.at91.com/
> S: Maintained
> @@ -1501,7 +1501,7 @@ F: drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb3/
>
> CYBERPRO FB DRIVER
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: drivers/video/cyber2000fb.*
> @@ -2046,7 +2046,7 @@ F: drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-cpm.c
> FREESCALE IMX / MXC FRAMEBUFFER DRIVER
> M: Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>
> L: linux-fbdev-devel at lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/plat-mxc/include/mach/imxfb.h
> F: drivers/video/imxfb.c
> @@ -3398,7 +3398,7 @@ F: include/linux/meye.h
>
> MOTOROLA IMX MMC/SD HOST CONTROLLER INTERFACE DRIVER
> M: Pavel Pisa <ppisa@pikron.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: drivers/mmc/host/imxmmc.*
>
> @@ -4106,7 +4106,7 @@ F: drivers/media/video/pvrusb2/
> PXA2xx/PXA3xx SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/
> F: drivers/pcmcia/pxa2xx*
> @@ -4119,13 +4119,13 @@ F: sound/soc/pxa
> PXA168 SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> M: Jason Chagas <jason.chagas@marvell.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ycmiao/pxa-linux-2.6.git
> S: Maintained
>
> PXA910 SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ycmiao/pxa-linux-2.6.git
> S: Maintained
>
> @@ -4366,7 +4366,7 @@ F: net/iucv/
>
> S3C24XX SD/MMC Driver
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
> F: drivers/mmc/host/s3cmci.*
>
> @@ -4561,7 +4561,7 @@ F: drivers/misc/sgi-xp/
> SHARP LH SUPPORT (LH7952X & LH7A40X)
> M: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
> W: http://projects.buici.com/arm
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: Documentation/arm/Sharp-LH/ADC-LH7-Touchscreen
> F: arch/arm/mach-lh7a40x/
>
Since we are changing mailing lists now, I have to say, can't the ARM
_kernel_ mailing list just be hosted as an open list at
linux-arm at vger.kernel.org and be done with? *Please*? All this moderating,
subscribing, cross-posting and flaming is really troubling.
Regards,
David.
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2009-08-21 11:52 [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 12:41 ` David John
@ 2009-08-21 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 13:40 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:27 ` Paul Walmsley
` (3 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 2 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Arnd Bergmann @ 2009-08-21 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Friday 21 August 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
I guess you subscribed everyone to the new list who was subscribed
to linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk before, but did not
move the "don't send any mail" flag.
I was only subscribed to the old list so that my own mails would
go through, but disabled reception of all other mails. No problem
for myself, but I think it would be good not to resubscribe anyone
who did not want to receive mails on the old list. Otherwise
we're risking a similar mess to what happened when the powerpc-dev
and powerpc mailing lists were merged.
Arnd <><
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2009-08-21 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
@ 2009-08-21 13:40 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-08-21 13:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
1 sibling, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Clouter @ 2009-08-21 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
* Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> [2009-08-21 15:13:48+0200]:
>
> On Friday 21 August 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> > blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
> >
> > Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> > the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
>
> I guess you subscribed everyone to the new list who was subscribed
> to linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk before, but did not
> move the "don't send any mail" flag.
>
> I was only subscribed to the old list so that my own mails would
> go through, but disabled reception of all other mails. No problem
> for myself, but I think it would be good not to resubscribe anyone
> who did not want to receive mails on the old list. Otherwise
> we're risking a similar mess to what happened when the powerpc-dev
> and powerpc mailing lists were merged.
>
I subscribed to the list so I can post to it, however I read the list
via GMANE's NNTP gateway. To prevent me having to 'read' posting from
both my usenet client and email client, I enabled the 'don't send any
mail' flag.
I am guessing there are others like me out there so this would be an
awkward 'fix'.
Cheers
--
Alexander Clouter
.sigmonster says: Old MacDonald had an agricultural real estate tax abatement.
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 13:40 ` Alexander Clouter
@ 2009-08-21 13:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 13:53 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-08-22 21:25 ` Ian Key
0 siblings, 2 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Arnd Bergmann @ 2009-08-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Friday 21 August 2009, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>
> I subscribed to the list so I can post to it, however I read the list
> via GMANE's NNTP gateway. To prevent me having to 'read' posting from
> both my usenet client and email client, I enabled the 'don't send any
> mail' flag.
>
> I am guessing there are others like me out there so this would be an
> awkward 'fix'.
Well, since you no longer have to be subscribed if you want to post
to the new list, and you can still read the list through an nntp gateway,
I would assume that it works for you as well.
Arnd <><
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 13:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
@ 2009-08-21 13:53 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-08-21 16:31 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-22 21:25 ` Ian Key
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From: Alexander Clouter @ 2009-08-21 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Hi,
* Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> [2009-08-21 15:43:30+0200]:
>
> On Friday 21 August 2009, Alexander Clouter wrote:
> >
> > I subscribed to the list so I can post to it, however I read the list
> > via GMANE's NNTP gateway. To prevent me having to 'read' posting from
> > both my usenet client and email client, I enabled the 'don't send any
> > mail' flag.
> >
> > I am guessing there are others like me out there so this would be an
> > awkward 'fix'.
>
> Well, since you no longer have to be subscribed if you want to post
> to the new list, and you can still read the list through an nntp gateway,
> I would assume that it works for you as well.
>
Fair enough, just thought we were contining the norm from before? I
hope that does not mean we get the amount of spam we see on the MTD
mailing list?
Cheers
--
Alexander Clouter
.sigmonster says: When we talk of tomorrow, the gods laugh.
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2009-08-21 13:53 ` Alexander Clouter
@ 2009-08-21 16:31 ` David Woodhouse
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 14:53 +0100, Alexander Clouter wrote:
> Fair enough, just thought we were contining the norm from before?
It's fairly much as before -- although we may reconsider some of the
controversial policies since my interpretation of the Data Protection
Act differs from Russell's in some respects.
> I hope that does not mean we get the amount of spam we see on the MTD
> mailing list?
I don't think there'll be much change from before. I think the front end
filtering is fairly much the same; the main difference between the lists
is the moderators. The moderators of the ARM lists are very active and
happy to filter things by hand -- like setting it to 'hold' messages
from non-subscribers, then approving them manually, which catches a lot.
I've been a bit lazy with the MTD list because I wanted to do as much as
possible automatically (although Artem does a wonderful job in his spare
time).
It's about time I updated some of the things I _do_ do automatically,
though; I've been neglecting that for a while too. You're the first
person to complain to me; I'll take a look and see what I can do.
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
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2009-08-21 13:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 13:53 ` Alexander Clouter
@ 2009-08-22 21:25 ` Ian Key
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From: Ian Key @ 2009-08-22 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
I've been lurking on this list for some time, trying to find the time to participate - sadly still lacking.
I'd like to thank Russell for doing an excellent job. It's not easy managing lists and pleasing people......
Ian
________________________________
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Alexander Clouter <alex@digriz.org.uk>
Cc: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>; erikm at nl.linux.org; torvalds at linux-foundation.org; vince at kyllikki.org; linux-kernel at vger.kernel.org; David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>; linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2009 14:43:30
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
On Friday 21 August 2009, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>
> I subscribed to the list so I can post to it, however I read the list
> via GMANE's NNTP gateway. To prevent me having to 'read' posting from
> both my usenet client and email client, I enabled the 'don't send any
> mail' flag.
>
> I am guessing there are others like me out there so this would be an
> awkward 'fix'.
Well, since you no longer have to be subscribed if you want to post
to the new list, and you can still read the list through an nntp gateway,
I would assume that it works for you as well.
Arnd <><
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2009-08-21 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 13:40 ` Alexander Clouter
@ 2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:28 ` Mark Brown
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:13 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> I guess you subscribed everyone to the new list who was subscribed
> to linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk before, but did not
> move the "don't send any mail" flag.
>
> I was only subscribed to the old list so that my own mails would
> go through, but disabled reception of all other mails. No problem
> for myself, but I think it would be good not to resubscribe anyone
> who did not want to receive mails on the old list.
Hm, that would have been a good idea if I had that information. Still,
it's done now -- people can easily unsubscribe.
Apologies to those inconvenienced, but it's probably better that way
than for people to drop _off_ the list without noticing.
> Otherwise we're risking a similar mess to what happened when the
> powerpc-dev and powerpc mailing lists were merged.
Hm?
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
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2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 15:28 ` Mark Brown
2009-08-21 15:30 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-21 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
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From: Mark Brown @ 2009-08-21 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:20:37PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:13 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > Otherwise we're risking a similar mess to what happened when the
> > powerpc-dev and powerpc mailing lists were merged.
> Hm?
Lots of people posting on the list going "What is all this mail? Make
it stop!" and so on (not helped by the fact that since two lists were
merged the overall volume increased).
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2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:28 ` Mark Brown
@ 2009-08-21 15:30 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-21 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
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From: Joe Perches @ 2009-08-21 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:20 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:13 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > I guess you subscribed everyone to the new list who was subscribed
> > to linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk before, but did not
> > move the "don't send any mail" flag.
> Hm, that would have been a good idea if I had that information. Still,
> it's done now -- people can easily unsubscribe.
Hi David.
Can I ask why you want to host this mailing list and if there's any
advantage in hosting the list at infradead.org over vger.kernel.org?
Is this list going to be moderated?
cheers, Joe
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2009-08-21 15:20 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:28 ` Mark Brown
2009-08-21 15:30 ` Joe Perches
@ 2009-08-21 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-21 16:02 ` David Woodhouse
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From: Arnd Bergmann @ 2009-08-21 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Friday 21 August 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > Otherwise we're risking a similar mess to what happened when the
> > powerpc-dev and powerpc mailing lists were merged.
>
> Hm?
I meand powerpc-dev and powerpc-embedded. The -embedded list had
gathered hundreds of subscribers over the years that were subscribed
only in 'digest' or 'no mail' mode and were totally overwhelmed
with the traffic on powerpc-dev. Contrary to what you expect to be
the minimum level of intelligence required to subscribe to development
mailing list, a huge number of them subsequently flooded the list
with messages saying 'please unsubscribe me please' or the like.
Needless to say, there was a clear instruction on the bottom of each
mail telling you how to unsubscribe.
Arnd <><
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2009-08-21 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
@ 2009-08-21 16:02 ` David Woodhouse
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:31 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> Contrary to what you expect to be
> the minimum level of intelligence required to subscribe to development
> mailing list, a huge number of them subsequently flooded the list
> with messages saying 'please unsubscribe me please' or the like.
> Needless to say, there was a clear instruction on the bottom of each
> mail telling you how to unsubscribe.
Hm. There's no accounting for the stupidity of the human animal.
We considered doing it as a mass _invitation_ (which needs the
subscriber to click the link to confirm) rather than a mass
subscription. In general, I think it's better to err on the side of
inclusion -- so I decided against that because I thought too many people
wouldn't notice it and would fall off the lists as a result. Perhaps
that was the wrong decision, but I suspect nothing is gained now by
going back and changing things, even if I _did_ have the required
information.
Even with the notification and the first major thread being "ARM Mailing
lists have moved", you're right that there are probably a few people who
are _so_ stupid that they can't manage to work it out. I've sent a mail
with words of one syllable or fewer to each list, which might hopefully
help -- but I'm sure there'll still be some.
When that happens, we'll unsubscribe them -- and send in the ninjas to
ensure they don't accidentally breed.
--
dwmw2
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 11:52 [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 12:41 ` David John
2009-08-21 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
@ 2009-08-21 15:27 ` Paul Walmsley
2009-08-21 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 21:59 ` Ben Dooks
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From: Paul Walmsley @ 2009-08-21 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Hello David,
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org list
is not used for this?
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
>
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Sanders <vince@kyllikki.org>
regards,
- Paul
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2009-08-21 15:27 ` Paul Walmsley
@ 2009-08-21 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 15:56 ` David John
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:27 -0600, Paul Walmsley wrote:
>
>
> > Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> > blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>
> Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org
> list is not used for this?
Russell didn't want to do that, so I offered an alternative solution
preserving the three separate lists (l-a, l-a-kernel, l-a-toolchain).
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
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2009-08-21 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
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2009-08-21 15:56 ` David John
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From: Bill Gatliff @ 2009-08-21 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:27 -0600, Paul Walmsley wrote:
>
>>
>>> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
>>> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>>>
>> Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org
>> list is not used for this?
>>
>
> Russell didn't want to do that, so I offered an alternative solution
> preserving the three separate lists (l-a, l-a-kernel, l-a-toolchain).
>
Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
b.g.
--
Bill Gatliff
bgat at billgatliff.com
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2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
@ 2009-08-21 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-21 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-08-21 16:09 ` David Woodhouse
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From: Catalin Marinas @ 2009-08-21 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:27 -0600, Paul Walmsley wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> >>> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
> >>>
> >> Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org
> >> list is not used for this?
> >>
> >
> > Russell didn't want to do that, so I offered an alternative solution
> > preserving the three separate lists (l-a, l-a-kernel, l-a-toolchain).
> >
>
> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
> be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
> lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
It looks like the linux-*@lists.arm.linux.org.uk have been moved to
linux-*@lists.infradead.org with all the subscriptions transferred as
well. So for kernel, it should be linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org.
If unsure, cc LKML.
--
Catalin
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2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
@ 2009-08-21 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-08-21 16:09 ` David Woodhouse
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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz @ 2009-08-21 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Friday 21 August 2009 17:40:45 Bill Gatliff wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:27 -0600, Paul Walmsley wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> >>> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
> >>>
> >> Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org
> >> list is not used for this?
> >>
> >
> > Russell didn't want to do that, so I offered an alternative solution
> > preserving the three separate lists (l-a, l-a-kernel, l-a-toolchain).
> >
>
> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
> be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
> lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
You can always start a new one if you are not sure. :)
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-21 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
@ 2009-08-21 16:09 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
> be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
> lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
Nothing has changed. There were always three lists: linux-arm (for
userspace stuff), linux-arm-toolchain and linux-arm-kernel.
If you were subscribed to linux-arm-kernel before, then you are already
subscribed to linux-arm-kernel now. The list has just moved, that's all.
(And as Arnd points out, we lost the 'nomail' settings for some
subscribers. Which is unfortunate, but I'm sure people will cope.)
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
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2009-08-21 16:09 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 16:14 ` Catalin Marinas
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From: Bill Gatliff @ 2009-08-21 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
>
>> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
>> be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
>> lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
>>
>
> Nothing has changed. There were always three lists: linux-arm (for
> userspace stuff), linux-arm-toolchain and linux-arm-kernel.
>
> If you were subscribed to linux-arm-kernel before, then you are already
> subscribed to linux-arm-kernel now. The list has just moved, that's all.
>
Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
b.g.
--
Bill Gatliff
bgat at billgatliff.com
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2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
@ 2009-08-21 16:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
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From: Catalin Marinas @ 2009-08-21 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 11:12 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
> >> be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
> >> lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
> >>
> >
> > Nothing has changed. There were always three lists: linux-arm (for
> > userspace stuff), linux-arm-toolchain and linux-arm-kernel.
> >
> > If you were subscribed to linux-arm-kernel before, then you are already
> > subscribed to linux-arm-kernel now. The list has just moved, that's all.
> >
>
> Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
Backup - if after a few months of arguing dwmw2 gets upset as well and
shuts the new lists down :-)
--
Catalin
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2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 16:14 ` Catalin Marinas
@ 2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 16:44 ` Paul Walmsley
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2009-08-21 21:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-08-21 22:03 ` Ben Dooks
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-21 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 11:12 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
The Judean People's Front.
Or, more seriously, it's for those who want to discuss ARM Linux without
involving Russell in any way. That _also_ hasn't changed.
--
dwmw2
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2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 16:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2009-08-21 17:05 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-21 18:06 ` Theodore Tso
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From: Paul Walmsley @ 2009-08-21 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Hello David,
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 11:12 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> > Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
>
> The Judean People's Front.
>
> Or, more seriously, it's for those who want to discuss ARM Linux without
> involving Russell in any way. That _also_ hasn't changed.
That might be the motivation for some, but certainly not for everyone.
Some people simply prefer the vger list server to lists.arm.kernel.org.uk.
- Paul
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2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 16:44 ` Paul Walmsley
@ 2009-08-21 17:05 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-21 17:22 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 18:06 ` Theodore Tso
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From: Joe Perches @ 2009-08-21 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:33 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 11:12 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> > So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
> it's for those who want to discuss ARM Linux without
> involving Russell in any way. That _also_ hasn't changed.
I don't have a preference for that, but I do have
a preference for lists without arbitrary latencies
for manual moderation.
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2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 16:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2009-08-21 17:05 ` Joe Perches
@ 2009-08-21 18:06 ` Theodore Tso
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From: Theodore Tso @ 2009-08-21 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:33:35PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 11:12 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> > Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
>
> The Judean People's Front.
>
> Or, more seriously, it's for those who want to discuss ARM Linux without
> involving Russell in any way. That _also_ hasn't changed.
The other advantage of the vger lists is they are hosted in a place
where the EU's insane Data Protection Act (or maybe it's an insane
interpretation of the Data Protection Act --- I haven't seen any other
EU based list be subscriber-only based on some claim that the Data
Protection Act required it) doesn't apply.
- Ted
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2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-21 16:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-21 16:33 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-21 21:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-08-21 22:03 ` Ben Dooks
3 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Sam Ravnborg @ 2009-08-21 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:12:13AM -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel
>>> subscribers be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of
>>> four different lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
>>>
>>
>> Nothing has changed. There were always three lists: linux-arm (for
>> userspace stuff), linux-arm-toolchain and linux-arm-kernel.
>>
>> If you were subscribed to linux-arm-kernel before, then you are already
>> subscribed to linux-arm-kernel now. The list has just moved, that's all.
>>
>
> Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
davem created that list as a response to some discussions about the moderation
on the (now former) arm-kernel list.
It never took of mainly because Russell wanted to keep the lists on
the ARM machine he had to do some stability testing.
Then the vger folks did some misconfiguration that made it
defunct for a long time.
[I'm susprised why we did not just add a arm-toolchain at vger + arm-userspace at vger
and be done with it. The mail admins cope with a lost of lists and thye would
barely notice a few more]
Sam
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2009-08-21 16:12 ` Bill Gatliff
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2009-08-21 21:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
@ 2009-08-21 22:03 ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-22 9:20 ` Mark Brown
3 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Ben Dooks @ 2009-08-21 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:12:13AM -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> >On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:
> >
> >>Ok, so which of the new lists should former linux-arm-kernel subscribers
> >>be subscribed to? I'm confused, I've seen mention of four different
> >>lists now: three at infraded, and one at vger. :)
> >>
> >
> >Nothing has changed. There were always three lists: linux-arm (for
> >userspace stuff), linux-arm-toolchain and linux-arm-kernel.
> >
> >If you were subscribed to linux-arm-kernel before, then you are already
> >subscribed to linux-arm-kernel now. The list has just moved, that's all.
> >
>
> Ok. So help me understand what is the vger list for? :)
To give Pavel and davem a warm feeling inside (although that maybe just
the residual hatred of moderated mailing lists - god help them if they
decide to submit stuff to other projects like ALSA).
--
Ben
Q: What's a light-year?
A: One-third less calories than a regular year.
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2009-08-21 22:03 ` Ben Dooks
@ 2009-08-22 9:20 ` Mark Brown
2009-08-22 12:35 ` Wan ZongShun
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Mark Brown @ 2009-08-22 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:03:39PM +0100, Ben Dooks wrote:
> To give Pavel and davem a warm feeling inside (although that maybe just
> the residual hatred of moderated mailing lists - god help them if they
> decide to submit stuff to other projects like ALSA).
Actually there's already an ALSA list on vger already; IIRC the main
reason for not migrating to it is not getting round to actually doing
the switch rather than anything else.
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-22 9:20 ` Mark Brown
@ 2009-08-22 12:35 ` Wan ZongShun
0 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Wan ZongShun @ 2009-08-22 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Dear Russell,
I'm amazed at the news that the list has been changed with other, now,
if the patch that was acked by you, whether I can submit it to your
"Kernel Patch System" yet or not via
"http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/"?
2009/8/22 Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:03:39PM +0100, Ben Dooks wrote:
>
>> To give Pavel and davem a warm feeling inside (although that maybe just
>> the residual hatred of moderated mailing lists - god help them if they
>> decide to submit stuff to other projects like ALSA).
>
> Actually there's already an ALSA list on vger already; IIRC the main
> reason for not migrating to it is not getting round to actually doing
> the switch rather than anything else.
> --
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Wan z.s
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-21 15:40 ` Bill Gatliff
@ 2009-08-21 15:56 ` David John
1 sibling, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: David John @ 2009-08-21 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On 08/21/2009 09:05 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:27 -0600, Paul Walmsley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
>>> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>>
>> Can you help us understand why the existing linux-arm at vger.kernel.org
>> list is not used for this?
>
> Russell didn't want to do that, so I offered an alternative solution
> preserving the three separate lists (l-a, l-a-kernel, l-a-toolchain).
>
Would it be too much to ask that linux-arm at vger be used for ARM kernel
development, with the other two lists at infradead? Maintaining multiple
kernel development lists was one of the problems mentioned, with people
unsure as to which list to subscribe to and having to subscribe to both
lists in case mails were posted to the vger list.
Maintaining a _single_ kernel mailing list would be ideal.
Regards,
David.
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* [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved
2009-08-21 11:52 [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved David Woodhouse
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2009-08-21 15:27 ` Paul Walmsley
@ 2009-08-21 21:59 ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-24 7:35 ` Riku Voipio
2009-08-25 12:21 ` Pavel Machek
5 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Ben Dooks @ 2009-08-21 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:52:46PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
>
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Sanders <vince@kyllikki.org>
Signed-off-by: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 60299a9..24f6134 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -497,7 +497,7 @@ F: arch/arm/include/asm/floppy.h
>
> ARM PORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/
> @@ -508,51 +508,51 @@ F: drivers/mmc/host/mmci.*
>
> ARM/ADI ROADRUNNER MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-ixp23xx/
> F: arch/arm/mach-ixp23xx/include/mach/
>
> ARM/ADS SPHERE MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/AFEB9260 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/AJECO 1ARM MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/ATMEL AT91RM9200 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://maxim.org.za/at91_26.html
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CIRRUS LOGIC EP93XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CIRRUS LOGIC EDB9315A MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CLKDEV SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> F: arch/arm/common/clkdev.c
> F: arch/arm/include/asm/clkdev.h
>
> ARM/COMPULAB CM-X270/EM-X270 and CM-X300 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CORGI MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -561,14 +561,14 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/CORTINA SYSTEMS GEMINI ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@teltonika.lt>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://gitorious.org/linux-gemini/mainline.git
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-gemini/
>
> ARM/EBSA110 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-ebsa110/
> @@ -586,13 +586,13 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx.c
>
> ARM/FARADAY FA526 PORT
> M: Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@teltonika.lt>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mm/*-fa*
>
> ARM/FOOTBRIDGE ARCHITECTURE
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/include/asm/hardware/dec21285.h
> @@ -600,17 +600,17 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-footbridge/
>
> ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/GLOMATION GESBC9312SX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/GUMSTIX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Steve Sakoman <sakoman@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/H4700 (HP IPAQ HX4700) MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -630,55 +630,55 @@ F: arch/arm/mach-sa1100/include/mach/jornada720.h
> ARM/INTEL IOP32X ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IOP33X ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IOP13XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IQ81342EX MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/INTEL IXP2000 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL IXDP2850 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL IXP23XX ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/INTEL XSC3 (MANZANO) ARM CORE
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> M: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
>
> ARM/IP FABRICS DOUBLE ESPRESSO MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/LOGICPD PXA270 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/MAGICIAN MACHINE SUPPORT
> @@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/MIOA701 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701.c
> S: Maintained
>
> @@ -728,18 +728,18 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/PT DIGITAL BOARD PORT
> M: Stefan Eletzhofer <stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/RADISYS ENP2611 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/RISCPC ARCHITECTURE
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/common/time-acorn.c
> @@ -758,7 +758,7 @@ S: Maintained
>
> ARM/SAMSUNG ARM ARCHITECTURES
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/plat-s3c/
> @@ -766,65 +766,65 @@ F: arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/
>
> ARM/S3C2410 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2410/
>
> ARM/S3C2440 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/
>
> ARM/S3C2442 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/
>
> ARM/S3C2443 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c2443/
>
> ARM/S3C6400 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c6400/
>
> ARM/S3C6410 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.fluff.org/ben/linux/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-s3c6410/
>
> ARM/TECHNOLOGIC SYSTEMS TS7250 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/THECUS N2100 MACHINE SUPPORT
> M: Lennert Buytenhek <kernel@wantstofly.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/NUVOTON W90X900 ARM ARCHITECTURE
> M: Wan ZongShun <mcuos.com@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.mcuos.com
> S: Maintained
>
> ARM/VFP SUPPORT
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/vfp/
> @@ -923,7 +923,7 @@ F: include/linux/atm*
>
> ATMEL AT91 MCI DRIVER
> M: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.atmel.com/products/AT91/
> W: http://www.at91.com/
> S: Maintained
> @@ -1501,7 +1501,7 @@ F: drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb3/
>
> CYBERPRO FB DRIVER
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> W: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
> S: Maintained
> F: drivers/video/cyber2000fb.*
> @@ -2046,7 +2046,7 @@ F: drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-cpm.c
> FREESCALE IMX / MXC FRAMEBUFFER DRIVER
> M: Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>
> L: linux-fbdev-devel at lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/plat-mxc/include/mach/imxfb.h
> F: drivers/video/imxfb.c
> @@ -3398,7 +3398,7 @@ F: include/linux/meye.h
>
> MOTOROLA IMX MMC/SD HOST CONTROLLER INTERFACE DRIVER
> M: Pavel Pisa <ppisa@pikron.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: drivers/mmc/host/imxmmc.*
>
> @@ -4106,7 +4106,7 @@ F: drivers/media/video/pvrusb2/
> PXA2xx/PXA3xx SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> M: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: arch/arm/mach-pxa/
> F: drivers/pcmcia/pxa2xx*
> @@ -4119,13 +4119,13 @@ F: sound/soc/pxa
> PXA168 SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> M: Jason Chagas <jason.chagas@marvell.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ycmiao/pxa-linux-2.6.git
> S: Maintained
>
> PXA910 SUPPORT
> M: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> T: git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ycmiao/pxa-linux-2.6.git
> S: Maintained
>
> @@ -4366,7 +4366,7 @@ F: net/iucv/
>
> S3C24XX SD/MMC Driver
> M: Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Supported
> F: drivers/mmc/host/s3cmci.*
>
> @@ -4561,7 +4561,7 @@ F: drivers/misc/sgi-xp/
> SHARP LH SUPPORT (LH7952X & LH7A40X)
> M: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
> W: http://projects.buici.com/arm
> -L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.arm.linux.org.uk (subscribers-only)
> +L: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> S: Maintained
> F: Documentation/arm/Sharp-LH/ADC-LH7-Touchscreen
> F: arch/arm/mach-lh7a40x/
>
> --
> David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
> David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-arm-kernel mailing list
> linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
--
--
Ben
Q: What's a light-year?
A: One-third less calories than a regular year.
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` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2009-08-21 21:59 ` Ben Dooks
@ 2009-08-24 7:35 ` Riku Voipio
2009-08-24 8:02 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-25 12:21 ` Pavel Machek
5 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Riku Voipio @ 2009-08-24 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:52:46PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
I take it that the archives will appear here: http://lists.infradead.org/
and the netiquette linked there applies also for the moved arm lists?
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2009-08-24 7:35 ` Riku Voipio
@ 2009-08-24 8:02 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-24 8:32 ` Pavel Machek
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From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-24 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:35 +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
> I take it that the archives will appear here:
> http://lists.infradead.org/
The new archives should already be appearing on lists.infradead.org,
yes. We'll look at importing all the old mail too.
I believe that mails are still being added to the original archive too.
> and the netiquette linked there applies also for the moved arm lists?
Yes. It's fairly much the same, isn't it? Apart from the bits about
having to be subscribed and not cross-posting?
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation
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2009-08-24 8:02 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-24 8:32 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-24 9:35 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2009-08-24 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon 2009-08-24 09:02:58, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:35 +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
> > I take it that the archives will appear here:
> > http://lists.infradead.org/
>
> The new archives should already be appearing on lists.infradead.org,
> yes. We'll look at importing all the old mail too.
>
> I believe that mails are still being added to the original archive too.
>
> > and the netiquette linked there applies also for the moved arm lists?
>
> Yes. It's fairly much the same, isn't it? Apart from the bits about
> having to be subscribed and not cross-posting?
Plus it makes sense to limit the "you may not delete Re: in reply"
limitation. Automated patch submitting scripts do that.
Pavel
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2009-08-24 8:32 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2009-08-24 9:35 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-24 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:32 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
> Plus it makes sense to limit the "you may not delete Re: in reply"
> limitation. Automated patch submitting scripts do that.
Yeah, anything with '[PATCH' in it gets a bye on that rule iirc.
--
dwmw2
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2009-08-24 9:35 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 7:45 ` Daniel Stenberg
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Eric Miao @ 2009-08-31 7:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
David,
I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check
if this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM, David Woodhouse<dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:32 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>
>> Plus it makes sense to limit the "you may not delete Re: in reply"
>> limitation. Automated patch submitting scripts do that.
>
> Yeah, anything with '[PATCH' in it gets a bye on that rule iirc.
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-arm-kernel mailing list
> linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
>
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2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
@ 2009-08-31 7:45 ` Daniel Stenberg
2009-08-31 7:50 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 7:49 ` Karl Hiramoto
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Daniel Stenberg @ 2009-08-31 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Eric Miao wrote:
> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check if
> this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
Look again. It is present in every mail.
--
/ daniel.haxx.se
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2009-08-31 7:45 ` Daniel Stenberg
@ 2009-08-31 7:50 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 8:08 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Eric Miao @ 2009-08-31 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Daniel Stenberg<daniel@haxx.se> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Eric Miao wrote:
>
>> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
>> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check if
>> this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
>
> Look again. It is present in every mail.
Below is a quote of your message shown by Firefox 3.5 - Gmail web interface,
cannot find the List-Id.
[QUOTE]
Delivered-To: eric.y.miao at gmail.com
Received: by 10.229.85.147 with SMTP id o19cs17863qcl;
Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.210.57.1 with SMTP id f1mr3960742eba.66.1251704723991;
Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <daniel@haxx.se>
Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [91.191.140.11])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si7880823ewy.118.2009.08.31.00.45.23;
Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 91.191.140.11 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of daniel at haxx.se)
client-ip=91.191.140.11;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com:
91.191.140.11 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for
domain of daniel at haxx.se) smtp.mail=daniel at haxx.se
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Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:45:23 +0200
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:45:23 +0200 (CEST)
From: Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>
X-X-Sender: dast at linux2.contactor.se
To: Eric Miao <eric.y.miao@gmail.com>
cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi>,
linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Eric Miao wrote:
> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check if
> this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
Look again. It is present in every mail.
--
/ daniel.haxx.se
[/QUOTE]
>
> --
>
> ?/ daniel.haxx.se
>
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2009-08-31 7:50 ` Eric Miao
@ 2009-08-31 8:08 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-31 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 15:50 +0800, Eric Miao wrote:
>
>
> Below is a quote of your message shown by Firefox 3.5 - Gmail web
> interface,
> cannot find the List-Id.
>
> [QUOTE]
> Return-Path: <daniel@haxx.se>
That's the one you got directly from him, not the one that came via the
list. You should have received the message twice -- once into your
mailing list folder, and once into your inbox (depending on how you set
up your filters).
Mailman does have some idiotic filtering crap by default which might
drop you if you appear to be Cc'd, but I believe I turned that off.
--
dwmw2
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2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 7:45 ` Daniel Stenberg
@ 2009-08-31 7:49 ` Karl Hiramoto
2009-08-31 7:56 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-08-31 8:05 ` David Woodhouse
3 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Karl Hiramoto @ 2009-08-31 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Works for me. See your mail headers:
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org> L
Eric Miao wrote:
> David,
>
> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check
> if this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM, David Woodhouse<dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:32 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>
>>> Plus it makes sense to limit the "you may not delete Re: in reply"
>>> limitation. Automated patch submitting scripts do that.
>>>
>> Yeah, anything with '[PATCH' in it gets a bye on that rule iirc.
>>
>> --
>> dwmw2
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> linux-arm-kernel mailing list
>> linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-arm-kernel mailing list
> linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
>
>
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2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 7:45 ` Daniel Stenberg
2009-08-31 7:49 ` Karl Hiramoto
@ 2009-08-31 7:56 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-08-31 7:52 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 8:05 ` David Woodhouse
3 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Schmidt @ 2009-08-31 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Hello.
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 15:22, Eric Miao wrote:
>
> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check
> if this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
It's there. Taken from your mail header:
List-Id: <linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org>
regards
Stefan Schmidt
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2009-08-31 7:56 ` Stefan Schmidt
@ 2009-08-31 7:52 ` Eric Miao
2009-08-31 17:21 ` Mark Brown
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: Eric Miao @ 2009-08-31 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Stefan
Schmidt<stefan@datenfreihafen.org> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 15:22, Eric Miao wrote:
>>
>> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
>> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check
>> if this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
>
> It's there. Taken from your mail header:
>
> List-Id: <linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org>
>
Strange enough. Gmail usually did this right for me in other mailing
list.
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2009-08-31 7:22 ` Eric Miao
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2009-08-31 7:56 ` Stefan Schmidt
@ 2009-08-31 8:05 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-31 18:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
3 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-31 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 15:22 +0800, Eric Miao wrote:
> I canot find the 'List-Id' that is usually present on other mailing list,
> which I normally use as a filter condition. Could you please help check
> if this is possible on lists.infradead.org?
You can get false positives if you filter on that.
The most reliable way to filter mailing lists is on the reverse-path
(which often appears in a Return-Path: or Sender: header at delivery).
That should match 'linux-arm-kernel-bounces.*@lists.infradead.org'
But the List-Id header definitely does seem to be present.
--
dwmw2
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2009-08-31 8:05 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-31 18:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-08-31 18:46 ` David Woodhouse
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From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2009-08-31 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Dear David Woodhouse,
In message <1251705959.16594.88.camel@macbook.infradead.org> you wrote:
>
> But the List-Id header definitely does seem to be present.
IIRC mail headers are case sensitive, and what I see in the messages is
not "List-Id", but "List-id:"; RFC2919 uses the former format.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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2009-08-31 18:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2009-08-31 18:46 ` David Woodhouse
2009-08-31 19:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 49+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2009-08-31 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:33 +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> IIRC mail headers are case sensitive, and what I see in the messages
> is not "List-Id", but "List-id:"; RFC2919 uses the former format.
That's interesting. Can you check that's what you actually have in your
mailbox files? I see "List-Id:".
(Well, I do see 'List-id:' in Evolution, but who'd use Evolution if they
wanted to reliably see what their email actually _says_? You should see
the mess it makes of the nicely formatted spam reports from
SpamAssassin.)
--
dwmw2
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2009-08-31 18:46 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2009-08-31 19:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2009-08-31 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
Dear David,
In message <1251744389.16594.276.camel@macbook.infradead.org> you wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:33 +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > IIRC mail headers are case sensitive, and what I see in the messages
> > is not "List-Id", but "List-id:"; RFC2919 uses the former format.
>
> That's interesting. Can you check that's what you actually have in your
> mailbox files? I see "List-Id:".
Argh... the actual files have "List-Id:", indeed. Sorry for the false
alarm.
> (Well, I do see 'List-id:' in Evolution, but who'd use Evolution if they
> wanted to reliably see what their email actually _says_? You should see
> the mess it makes of the nicely formatted spam reports from
> SpamAssassin.)
I'm not using Evolution, but exmh / nmh. I was not aware before that
it does such changes when displaying header contents. Arghhh...
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
A morsel of genuine history is a thing so rare as to be always
valuable. - Thomas Jefferson
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` (4 preceding siblings ...)
2009-08-24 7:35 ` Riku Voipio
@ 2009-08-25 12:21 ` Pavel Machek
5 siblings, 0 replies; 49+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2009-08-25 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-arm-kernel
On Fri 2009-08-21 12:52:46, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Russell no longer wants to maintain the mailing lists, so with his
> blessing I have set up replacements at lists.infradead.org.
>
> Erik was helping to moderate the old list, and will continue to moderate
> the new one. Vince has kindly volunteered to do so too.
Oh and thanks for maintaining the new list :-).
Pavel
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