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From: peterz@infradead.org (Peter Zijlstra)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Get rid of IRQF_DISABLED - (was [PATCH] genirq: warn about IRQF_SHARED|IRQF_DISABLED)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:03:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1259589780.26472.18.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911301225110.24119@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 14:54 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
> > For shared irqs IRQF_DISABLED is only guaranteed for the first handler.
> > So only warn starting at the second registration.
> > 
> > The warning is moved to __setup_irq having the additional benefit of
> > catching actions registered using setup_irq not only register_irq.
> > 
> > This doesn't fix the cases where setup order is wrong but it should
> > report the broken cases more reliably.
> 
> The whole IRQF_DISABLED trickery is questionable and I'm pretty
> unhappy about the warning in general.
> 
> While it is true that there is no guarantee of IRQF_DISABLED on shared
> interrupts (at least not for the secondary handlers) we really need to
> think about the reason why we want to run interrupt handlers with
> interrupts enabled at all.
> 
> The separation of interrupt handlers which run with interrupts
> disabled/enabled goes all the way back to Linux 1.0, which had two
> interrupt handling modes:
> 
> 1) handlers installed with SA_INTERRUPT ran atomically with interrupts
>    disabled.
> 
> 2) handlers installed without SA_INTERRUPT ran with interrupts enabled
>    as they did more complex stuff like signal handling in the kernel.
> 
> The interrupt which was always run with interrupts disabled was the
> timer interrupt because some of the "slower" interrupt handlers were
> relying on jiffies being updated, which is only possible when they run
> with interrupts enabled and no such handler can interrupt the timer
> interrupt.
> 
> In the 2.1.x timeframe the discussion about shared interrupt handlers
> and the treatment of SA_INTERRUPT (today IRQF_DISABLED) was resolved
> by changing the code to what we have right now. If you read back in
> the archives you will find the same arguments as we have seen in this
> thread and a boatload of different solutions to that.
> 
> The real question is why we want to run an interrupt handler with
> interrupts enabled at all. There are two reaons AFAICT:
> 
> 1) interrupt handler relies on jiffies being updated:
> 
>    I don't think that this is the case anymore and if we still have
>    code which does it is probably historic crap which is unused for
>    quite a time.
> 
> 2) interrupt handler runs a long time:
> 
>    I'm sure we still have some of those especially in the
>    archaelogical corners of drivers/* and in the creative space of the
>    embedded "oh, I don't know why but it works" departement. That's
>    code which needs to be fixed anyway.
> 
> The correct solution IMNSHO is to get rid of IRQF_DISABLED and run
> interrupt handlers always with interrupts disabled and require them
> not to reenable interrupts themself.
> 
> Thoughts ?

I'm all for removing that brain damage:

  http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/3/2/33

We should convert the broken hardware PIO and 3com interrupt things to
threaded interrupts, and simply mandate all IRQ handlers run short and
with IRQs disabled.

Except I guess that will upset some of the IRQ priority folks, like
power, where they (iirc) have a stack per irq prio level.

But its not like the core kernel knows about these nesting rules and can
actually track any of that muck.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-30 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-21  7:39 [PATCH] Don't disable irqs in set_next_event and set_mode callbacks Uwe Kleine-König
2009-09-21  9:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21  9:16   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-09-21  9:30     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 10:48     ` Alessandro Rubini
2009-09-21 12:32 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2009-09-23 19:01   ` Eric Miao
2009-09-23 21:04 ` Remy Bohmer
2009-11-26 10:26 ` [RESENT PATCH] " Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-26 10:50   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-26 11:31     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-27 10:44       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-27 19:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-27 19:58         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-27 20:38           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-27 20:44             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-27 21:31               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-27 21:59                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-27 22:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-27 21:10           ` [PATCH] warn about shared irqs requesting IRQF_DISABLED registered with setup_irq Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-27 22:18             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-28 20:03               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-28 21:50                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-28 22:13                   ` David Brownell
2009-11-29  2:31                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-29 10:26                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-29 15:18                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-29 15:27                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-30 20:39                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-30  9:28                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-30  9:54                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-28 22:09                 ` David Brownell
2009-11-30 10:47             ` [PATCH] genirq: warn about IRQF_SHARED|IRQF_DISABLED at the right place Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-30 13:54               ` Get rid of IRQF_DISABLED - (was [PATCH] genirq: warn about IRQF_SHARED|IRQF_DISABLED) Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 14:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-11-30 14:24                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 14:47                     ` Alan Cox
2009-11-30 15:01                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-30 15:32                         ` Alan Cox
2009-11-30 15:43                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-30 20:15                         ` Andrew Victor
2009-11-30 20:53                         ` David Brownell
2009-11-30 20:38                       ` David Brownell
2009-12-01  1:42                         ` Andy Walls
2009-11-30 19:59                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-30 21:31                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 21:42                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-30 21:54                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 14:37                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-30 14:39                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-30 17:48                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 14:51                   ` Alan Cox
2009-11-30 21:59                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 23:30                       ` Alan Cox
2009-11-30 15:38                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-11-30 17:46                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 19:51                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-30 21:23                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-30 20:21               ` [PATCH] genirq: warn about IRQF_SHARED|IRQF_DISABLED at the right place David Brownell
2009-11-30 20:27                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-01-12 15:42               ` [RESEND PATCH] " Uwe Kleine-König
2009-11-26 10:51   ` [RESENT PATCH] Don't disable irqs in set_next_event and set_mode callbacks Eric Miao
2009-12-17 13:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] arm/at91: " Uwe Kleine-König
2009-12-17 13:33     ` [PATCH 2/2] arm/{pxa, sa1100, nomadik}: Don't disable irqs in set_next_event and set_mode Uwe Kleine-König
2010-01-22 16:08     ` [PATCH 1/2] arm/at91: Don't disable irqs in set_next_event and set_mode callbacks Uwe Kleine-König
2010-01-22 16:36       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-22 16:52         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-02-12 10:35           ` Uwe Kleine-König

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