From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:24:07 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267316647.23523.1852.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100226214908.GD23933@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 21:49 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 08:40:29AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > Hrm, the DMA API certainly doesn't handle the I$/D$ coherency on
> > powerpc.. I'm afraid that whole cache handling stuff is totally
> > inconsistent since different archs have different expectations here.
>
> It doesn't on ARM either.
Ok, pfiew :-)
So far, my understanding with I$/D$ is that we only care in a few cases
which is executing of an mmap'ed piece of executable that is -not- being
written to, and swap.
I -think- that in both cases, the page cache always pops up a new page
with PG_arch_1 clear before the driver gets to either DMA or PIO to it
when faulted the first time around, before any PTE is inserted.
So the current approach on powerpc with I$/D$ should work fine, and it
-might- make sense to use a similar one on PIPT ARM, provided we don't
have expectations of the I$/D$ coherency being maintained on
-subsequent- writes (PIO or DMA either) to such a page by the same
program transparently by the kernel.
There's two potential problems with the approach, and maybe more that I
have missed though. One is the case of a networked filesystem where the
executable pages are modified remotely. However, I would expect such a
program to invalidate the PTE mappings before making the change visible,
so we -do- get a chance to re-flush provided something clears PG_arch_1.
Then, there's In the case of a multithread app, where one thread does
the cache flush and another thread then executes, the earlier ARMs
without broadcast ops have a potential problem there. In fact, some
variant of PowerPC 440 have the same problem and some people are
(ab)using those for SMP setups I'm being told.
For that case, I see two options. One is a big hammer but would make
existing code work to "most" extent: Don't allow a page to be both
writable and executable. Ping-pong the page permission lazily and flush
when transitioning from write to exec.
That means using a spare bit for Linux _PAGE_RW separate from your real
RW bit I suppose, since you have HW loaded PTEs (on 440 it's easier
since we SW load, we can do the fixup there, though it has a perf impact
obviously).
Another option would be to make some syscall mandatory to "sync" caches
which could then do IPIs or whatever else is needed. But that would
require changing existing userspace code.
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[not found] ` <1265045354.25750.52.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
2010-02-08 6:55 ` USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 7:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-08 10:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 9:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 10:03 ` Andy Green
2010-02-17 9:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2010-02-17 9:57 ` Andy Green
2010-02-08 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 11:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 7:57 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 8:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 9:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 9:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 13:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 13:40 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 13:46 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:12 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 14:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:45 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 9:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:17 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 17:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 20:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 20:30 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-18 6:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-18 7:14 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-17 12:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-17 3:21 ` Ming Lei
2010-02-17 9:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 10:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 12:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 20:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 22:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-19 17:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 17:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 20:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 7:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 3:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-26 0:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 12:36 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-24 2:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 21:50 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 20:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-26 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 5:01 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-01 10:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-01 11:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-02 12:11 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02 17:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 17:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 10:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 3:47 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 5:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 5:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 9:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-03 10:24 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 19:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 8:26 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 6:35 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 10:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 10:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 6:54 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-04 9:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 10:56 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-06 11:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-06 19:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 13:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 14:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-06 10:47 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-06 19:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 5:54 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 11:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-06 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 3:37 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-09 2:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:41 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-04 16:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 17:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 18:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 22:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 4:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-05 9:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 1:17 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-05 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-10 3:52 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-11 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-05 4:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-07 8:23 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-08 10:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-01 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 20:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-26 21:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-02-28 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 4:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 2:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 22:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 23:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-28 23:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 8:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 8:51 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-20 7:21 ` Pete Zaitcev
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