From: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com (James Bottomley)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:24:11 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267941251.2812.20.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100306193649.GB13262@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 19:36 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:17:23PM +0530, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On a fault in of exec data, we first try to get the page out of the page
> > cache. If it's not present, we put the faulting process to sleep and
> > fetch it in from storage. When we do the read, on the PIO path, the
> > kernel alias for the page becomes dirty. Some time later, we place the
> > page into the user space (updating the pte entry that caused a fault).
> > At this point, we'll call both flush_icache_page() and
> > update_mmu_cache() ... this is where the I/D resolution should be done.
>
> No - this is where things get extremely icky.
OK, but the point I'm trying to make is that the page cache code,
including the I/O layer, only manages kernel D alias state (either by
flushing or marking it dirty). The user space I/D handling is done in
the mm code (I'm not claiming it's done correctly there, just claiming
it's done there).
> The problem at this point occurs on SMP architectures. As soon as you
> update the PTE entry, it is visible to other threads of the application.
> If you do I-cache handling after updating the PTE, then there is a window
> where another CPU can execute the page:
>
> CPU0 CPU1
> speculatively prefetches from page N via kernel
> mapping, loads garbage into I-cache
> attempts to execute P
> page fault
> page N allocated
> set_pte_at
> executes P
> *splat*
> flush I-cache
OK, so I can believe this. We see extremely rare segfaults on parisc
which look to be the result of some I flush race like this. However, I
think for a discussion of problems with the arch and mm interfaces, we
should probably move off the usb list and onto linux-arch.
Our specific problem on parisc is that being VIPT we can't do an I (or
D) user flush without a mapping. We have two schemes for fixing this:
One is to use a PAGE_FLUSH flag for the mapping ... it allows the
flushes to work but refuses any type of RWX access (can do this because
we have a software TLB). The other is to use a flush area within the
kernel where we flush a page congruent to the userspace address ... I
haven't got this working yet, and it's a bit wasteful of kernel address
space because our congruence modulus is 4MB.
James
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2010-02-08 6:55 ` USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 7:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-08 10:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 9:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 10:03 ` Andy Green
2010-02-17 9:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2010-02-17 9:57 ` Andy Green
2010-02-08 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 11:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 7:57 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 8:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 9:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 9:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 13:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 13:40 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 13:46 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:12 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 14:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:45 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 9:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:17 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 17:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 20:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 20:30 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-18 6:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-18 7:14 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-17 12:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-17 3:21 ` Ming Lei
2010-02-17 9:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 10:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 12:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 20:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 22:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-19 17:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 17:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 20:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 7:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 3:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-26 0:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 12:36 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-24 2:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 21:50 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 20:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-26 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 5:01 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-01 10:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-01 11:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-02 12:11 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02 17:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 17:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 10:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 3:47 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 5:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 5:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 9:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-03 10:24 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 19:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 8:26 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 6:35 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 10:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 10:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 6:54 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-04 9:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 10:56 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-06 11:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-06 19:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 13:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 14:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-06 10:47 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-06 19:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 5:54 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-03-08 11:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-06 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 3:37 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-09 2:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:41 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-04 16:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 17:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 18:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 22:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 4:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-05 9:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 1:17 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-05 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-10 3:52 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-11 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-05 4:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-07 8:23 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-08 10:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-01 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 20:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-26 21:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 4:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 2:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 22:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 23:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-28 23:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 8:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 8:51 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-20 7:21 ` Pete Zaitcev
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