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From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:32 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1276495772.2552.22.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBjwuVvij8I91XaQgLfn8r_lZDrAsIBfJrHDBF@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:13 -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> > We use that to suck the device-tree, which we flatten, and then
> re-enter
> > the kernel with the "common" entry interface.
> 
> I don't think I want to do the same on ARM.  I'd rather have the
> prom_init stuff in a boot wrapper, or have OFW itself generate the
> flat representation before booting the kernel.

But then it's no longer OF. IE. A compliant OF implementation provides a
client interface API :-)

This is going to be especially important if Mitch wants to keep OF
alive.

I suppose it could be done via a wrapper like prom_init, which flattens
the tree, and sticks somewhere in a property the address of the OF
client interface callback though it's a tad awkward. If well defined, I
suppose Mitch might even be able to make his OF natively boot kernels
that way but that's of course up to him.

> I'm trying to constrain the number of things that could go wrong by
> defining only one way for getting the device tree data into the
> kernel.

I understand, and the flattened method is the most versatile, I'm just
pointing out the situation here :-)

> Right.  We don't need to use OFW/RTAS to handle this use case.

Definitely not. It will depend on whatever hypervisor interface is
implemented in a given environment. Though I do like the idea of passing
precompiled bits of .dtb around for hotplug :-) We could make that a
standard way of KVM to do things in embedded space.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-14  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                 ` <4C146F18.9030008@firmworks.com>
2010-06-14  5:02                   ` Request review of device tree documentation Grant Likely
2010-06-14 12:44                     ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 14:59                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:08                         ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:02                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:23                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:29                             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28                           ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:33                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:58                           ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 17:26                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 18:20                               ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 19:40                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 20:08                                   ` Mark Brown
2010-06-16  6:09                             ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16  6:13                               ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16  6:17                                 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16  6:32                                   ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16  6:47                                     ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16  7:40                                       ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16  9:45                                         ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 10:39                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 11:41                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 13:48                                             ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 14:39                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 17:43                                             ` Tim Bird
2010-06-17  6:45                                               ` Benjamin Zores
2010-06-16  6:52                                     ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-18 22:12                                       ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-15  2:02                         ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 15:51                       ` M. Warner Losh
     [not found]                   ` <1276408773.1962.574.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14  5:23                     ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14  7:38                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14  7:45                         ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14  9:25                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14  9:36                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14  9:47                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 14:29                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 13:51                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:35                         ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:58                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:16                             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                     ` <4C147EA5.3060500@firmworks.com>
     [not found]                       ` <1276417792.1962.731.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14  5:36                         ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 20:00                           ` Ben Dooks
     [not found]                 ` <1276408087.1962.552.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14  5:13                   ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14  6:09                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-06-14  6:17                       ` Mitch Bradley

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