From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() on RAM
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:36:28 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1287196588.2370.1.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101008175308.GA10975@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 18:53 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> As already discussed, it's nigh on impossible to unmap the existing
> direct mapped region (read the previous discussions about why this is)
> - which is precisely why there is no direct alternative solution.
>
> The only possible solution is to exclude some memory at boot time from
> the system direct map so that it never appears in the direct map, and
> use ioremap on _that_. Another possible alternative is to use
> highmem,
> obtain highmem pages (making sure that it doesn't fall back to lowmem)
> and remap them using interfaces such as vmap.
>
> So there are solutions to the problem, but it seems that _no one_ is
> willing to discuss it other than "we want our old way back".
>
> If you want the old way back, apply pressure to silicon vendors and
> ARM Ltd to change the architecture to lift this restriction - which
> will probably mean doing away with aggressive speculative prefetching
> so that it's possible to predict what will be in the cache at any
> point in time.
Note that we have the exact same problem on powerpc. The only sane
solution is that SoCs designed around such cores or versions of the
architecture should be fully DMA coherent to avoid the need for funky
mapping attributes. Anything else is garbage HW, but sadly, it looks
like way too many idiots still find jobs as HW designers.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-07 9:44 [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() on RAM Felipe Contreras
2010-10-07 11:51 ` Baruch Siach
2010-10-07 12:29 ` [PATCH v2] " Felipe Contreras
2010-10-07 18:00 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-10-07 19:22 ` [PATCH] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-08 9:32 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-08 17:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-08 19:37 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-08 23:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-08 23:25 ` Greg KH
2010-10-08 23:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 0:00 ` Greg KH
2010-10-09 0:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 0:54 ` Greg KH
2010-10-09 2:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-10-09 3:04 ` Greg KH
2010-10-09 9:32 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 10:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-11 10:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 10:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-11 11:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-11 12:03 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 12:30 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-11 22:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-10-14 15:02 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-14 17:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-14 17:44 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 11:01 ` Pawel Moll
2010-10-11 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-16 2:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-10-16 9:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 0:10 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 0:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 9:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 10:28 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 11:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-09 11:43 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-09 11:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 12:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 12:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 14:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 16:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 11:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-10-09 12:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 11:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-09 18:59 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-10-10 1:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 8:35 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-10-11 9:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-11 9:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-10-11 10:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-11 10:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-11 15:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-14 14:47 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-19 8:13 ` Colin Cross
2010-10-19 18:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-19 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-23 9:43 ` [PATCH] ARM: mx3/pcm037: properly allocate memory for mx3-camera Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-23 10:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-23 10:26 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-23 14:08 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-11-23 14:17 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-24 8:02 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-06 8:33 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-06 10:14 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-12-06 10:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-06 11:37 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-12-06 11:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-06 14:09 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-12-06 14:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-06 14:54 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-12-06 16:54 ` Alberto Panizzo
2010-11-23 10:39 ` About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat loglevel markers [Was: Re: [PATCH] ARM: mx3/pcm037: properly allocate memory for mx3-camera] Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-23 10:58 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-23 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-23 22:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-23 23:23 ` Joe Perches
2010-11-24 8:17 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-11-24 9:09 ` Michał Mirosław
2010-11-23 22:54 ` [PATCH] ARM: mx3/pcm037: properly allocate memory for mx3-camera Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-10-09 0:45 ` [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() on RAM Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 8:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-08 23:19 ` Greg KH
2010-10-09 3:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-10-09 10:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 17:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-10-09 20:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-13 16:17 ` Woodruff, Richard
2010-10-14 13:48 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-14 15:29 ` Woodruff, Richard
2010-10-16 2:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-10-17 13:05 ` Woodruff, Richard
2010-10-17 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-10-08 19:58 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-09 13:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 16:07 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-09 16:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-09 19:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-10-10 14:23 ` Pedanekar, Hemant
2010-10-11 9:26 ` Catalin Marinas
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