From: peterz@infradead.org (Peter Zijlstra)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] Add OMAP hardware spinlock misc driver
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:32:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1287415929.29097.1616.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tnxeibnh67q.fsf@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 16:27 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 14:35 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >> In any case, Linux's spinlock API (or more accurately, the ARM exclusive
> >> access instructions) relies upon hardware coherency support (a piece of
> >> hardware called an exclusive monitor) which isn't present on the M3 nor
> >> DSP processors. So there's no way to ensure that updates from the M3
> >> and DSP are atomic wrt the A9 updates.
> >
> > Right, so the problem is that there simply is no way to do atomic memory
> > access from these auxiliary processing units wrt the main CPU? Seeing as
> > they operate on the same memory space, wouldn't it make sense to have
> > them cache-coherent and thus provide atomicy guarantees through that?
>
> With cache coherency you may get atomicity of writes or reads but
> usually not atomic modifications.
Sure, but you can 'easily' extend your coherency protocols with support
for things like ll/sc (or larger transactions).
Have ll bring the cacheline into exclusive state and tag it, then
anything that demotes the cacheline will clear the tag and make sc fail.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-18 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-18 7:44 [PATCH 0/3] Add OMAP hardware spinlock misc driver Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-18 7:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] drivers: misc: add omap_hwspinlock driver Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 15:46 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 20:18 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 16:58 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-19 20:21 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 17:01 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-19 20:43 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 21:57 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 17:16 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-20 13:00 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 18:18 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-19 17:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:51 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 21:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-20 22:43 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-21 9:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 10:13 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-21 12:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-22 17:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-10-18 7:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] OMAP4: hwmod data: Add hwspinlock Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-18 7:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] omap: add hwspinlock device Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 17:03 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-19 17:05 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-19 21:02 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-19 23:12 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-20 14:09 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 15:51 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-19 23:53 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-20 1:20 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-10-20 14:38 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 15:55 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-20 18:37 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-20 19:21 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 23:58 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-10-21 6:11 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-21 8:36 ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-10-21 9:06 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-22 9:59 ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-10-22 11:16 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-21 12:26 ` Kanigeri, Hari
2010-10-22 10:14 ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-10-22 16:56 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-10-22 17:03 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-22 17:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-10-24 17:54 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-25 19:02 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-10-26 11:54 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-26 19:06 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-10-18 12:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] Add OMAP hardware spinlock misc driver Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 13:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-18 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 14:28 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-18 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 14:39 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-18 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-18 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-10-18 15:35 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-18 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 15:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-10-18 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 23:31 ` Daniel Walker
2010-10-20 6:13 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 10:00 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-10-20 22:29 ` Bryan Huntsman
2010-10-20 9:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-10-20 22:15 ` Daniel Walker
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