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From: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com (James Bottomley)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8]
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:35:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294259717.16957.27.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik214sj_wBJXhJMLRie34moG7ET1Xg62oQXsgxb@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 11:49 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 2011/1/5 James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>:
> >>
> >> No, we really can't do that. Most of the time, the kmap() is the only
> >> way we access the page anyway, so flushing things would just be
> >> stupid. Why waste time and energy on doing something pointless?
> >
> > It's hardly pointless.  The kmap sets up an inequivalent alias in the
> > cache.
> 
> NO IT DOES NOT.

Well, it does ... but not in this case because the page is freshly
allocated (which I missed before) so it has no use cache colour yet.

James

> Stop arguing, when you are so wrong.
> 
> kmap() does not create any aliases. For low-memory, it just returns
> the physical address. No alias. And for high memory, there is no
> equivalent low memory address to alias _with_.
> 
> Now, when you actually mix multiple kmap's and you have a virtually
> based cache, then the kmap's obviously need to flush that particular
> page when switching between each other. But that has nothing to do
> with the actual page being kmap'ed, it's entirely an internal issue
> about the particular virtual memory area being re-used. And ARM (and
> any other virtually based CPU) already does that in __kunmap_atomic().
> 
> But notice the case of the low-mem. And understand that you are WRONG
> about the "inequivalent alias" thing.
> 
> So I repeat: this has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with kmap(). Stop blathering.
> 
> It's _purely_ an issue of vm_map_ram(). Nothing else.
> 
>                           Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-05 19:05 still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8] James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 19:36   ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 20:35       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-01-05 20:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:33       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:04           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:16               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 21:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 23:06                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:28                     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:40                       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:47                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-06 17:51                           ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-07 18:53                             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 19:02                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:11                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-08 16:49                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 10:50                                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 16:25                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 17:08                                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:20                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 17:26                                               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 19:25                                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 19:29                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:31                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-01-10 19:34                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-10 20:15                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 12:44                                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-07 19:13                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 19:05                               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:05                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:14                           ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:25                             ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 21:07                               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 20:19                         ` John Stoffel
2011-01-05 23:28                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 23:59                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:16           ` James Bottomley
     [not found] <AANLkTi=-dNeeDjcSoznKtwcaNyw1mMXSqepFY89R2i+2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-12-30 17:14 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-30 17:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 18:24     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 18:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 19:25         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 20:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 17:59   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 19:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-03 21:38       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-04  0:22         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05  8:40           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 11:05             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 11:27               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 12:14                 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 13:02                   ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-01-05 15:34                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 13:40                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 14:29                   ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 14:42                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:38                       ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 14:53                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:01                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:14                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:29                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:39                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:52                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 17:17                           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 17:26                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 18:12                               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 18:27                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 18:55                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 19:07                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-14  2:25                     ` Andy Isaacson
2011-01-14  2:40                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-14  4:22                         ` Andy Isaacson

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