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From: msalter@redhat.com (Mark Salter)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] define ARM-specific dma_coherent_write_sync
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:02:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1315321331.2313.10.camel@deneb.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHkRjk6TD4Qg-b3nkCE_wwj-tWr-_5evndxo3f+_6gtXEV6gNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 15:48 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On 6 September 2011 15:37, Mark Salter <msalter@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 15:32 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >> That's what mb() and wmb() do already, at least on ARM. Why do we need
> >> another API? IIRC from past discussions on linux-arch around barriers,
> >> the mb() should be sufficient in the case of DMA coherent buffers.
> >> That's why macros like writel() on ARM have the mb() added by default
> >> (for cases where you start the DMA transfer by writing to a device
> >> register).
> >
> > For USB EHCI, the driver does not necessarily write to a register after
> > writing to DMA coherent memory. In some cases, the controller polls for
> > information written by the driver.
> 
> So as I understand, you would like to force the eviction from the
> write buffer rather than waiting for it to be drained. On ARM, the
> write buffer is eventually flushed, so there is no strict timing
> guarantee. It could take longer if the processor immediately starts
> polling some memory location for example, but in this case a simple
> barrier would do.

Yes, a memory barrier would have the same effect on ARM, but the
purpose of a barrier is to guarantee ordering. What the patch does
is add an interface to force a write buffer flush for performance,
not ordering. If a memory barrier is used, it could have a negative
impact on other arches.

In any case, the current thinking is that the original problem with
the USB performance seen on cortex A9 multicore is probably something
more than just write buffer delays. Once the original problem is better
understood, we can take another look at this patch if it is still
needed.

--Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-06 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-31 21:30 [PATCH 0/3] RFC: addition to DMA API Mark Salter
2011-08-31 21:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] add dma_coherent_write_sync " Mark Salter
2011-09-01  2:59   ` Josh Cartwright
2011-09-01  9:57   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-09-01 12:36     ` Mark Salter
2011-09-06 14:30       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-08-31 21:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] define ARM-specific dma_coherent_write_sync Mark Salter
2011-09-06 14:32   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-09-06 14:37     ` Mark Salter
2011-09-06 14:48       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-09-06 15:02         ` Mark Salter [this message]
2011-10-03  1:40           ` Jon Masters
2011-10-03  8:44             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-10-03  9:24               ` Jon Masters
2011-08-31 21:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] add dma_coherent_write_sync calls to USB EHCI driver Mark Salter
2011-09-01  2:33   ` Ming Lei
2011-09-01  2:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] RFC: addition to DMA API Ming Lei
2011-09-01  3:09   ` Alan Stern
2011-09-01  3:41     ` Ming Lei
2011-09-01  8:45       ` Will Deacon
2011-09-01  9:14         ` Ming Lei
2011-09-01 15:42           ` Alan Stern
2011-09-01 16:04             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-09-01 17:31               ` Will Deacon
2011-09-01 18:07                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-09-01 19:14                 ` Mark Salter
2011-09-01 15:22       ` Alan Stern
2011-09-01 15:56         ` Ming Lei
2011-09-01 16:48           ` Alan Stern
2011-09-02  0:59             ` Ming Lei
2011-09-02 13:53               ` Alan Stern
2011-09-01  9:11 ` Will Deacon

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