From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC 0/4] Scheduler idle notifiers and users
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:33:10 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329082390.3019.17.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328971983.11320.5.camel@laptop>
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 15:53 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 14:39 +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> >
> > For step downs this isn't such a big deal as we don't often care if the
> > voltage drops immediately but for step ups it's critical as if the
> > voltage hasn't ramped before the CPU tries to run at the higher
> > frequency the CPU will brown out.
>
> Why isn't all this done by micro-controllers, software writes a desired
> state in some machine register (fast), micro-controller sets about
> making it so in an asynchronous way. If it finds the settings have
> changed by the time it reached its former goal, goto 1.
>
> Having to actually wait for this in software is quite ridiculous.
Not necessarily micro-controllers no. Or rather, it's generally done by
uC (or system controllers) on desktop or server machines, but not on
embedded (ie. phones) where arguably that's where it is the most
important :-)
Now often (but not always) the trigger to initiate a change is indeed a
simple register or register-based gpio, so that's fast. But you also
often have to wait for a transition to be complete before initiating
another one, or sychronize between voltage and frequency.
For example, if you are ramping up, you need to up the voltage first,
then wait for it to reach the nominal value & stabilize, then ramp up
the frequency. It's not that often automated.
Then there's the case where to communicate with those chips, you have to
go via a bus such as i2c which requires schedulable contexts.
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-12 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-08 1:39 [PATCH RFC 0/4] Scheduler idle notifiers and users Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 1:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: Introduce idle notifiers API Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 1:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: Wire up idle notifiers Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 1:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] cpufreq: New 'interactive' governor Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 23:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2012-02-09 0:32 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 1:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: Move leds idle start/stop calls to sched idle notifiers Anton Vorontsov
2012-02-08 3:05 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Scheduler idle notifiers and users Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-08 20:23 ` Dave Jones
2012-02-08 21:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-02-09 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-11 3:15 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-02-11 14:39 ` Mark Brown
2012-02-11 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-11 15:33 ` Mark Brown
2012-02-15 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 16:04 ` Mark Brown
2012-02-12 21:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-02-11 14:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-14 23:20 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-02-15 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 14:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-15 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 16:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-15 16:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 3:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-02-16 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-17 9:00 ` Dominik Brodowski
2012-02-20 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 12:38 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-02-21 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 13:31 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-02-21 14:52 ` Amit Kucheria
2012-02-21 17:06 ` Pantelis Antoniou
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