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From: l.stach@pengutronix.de (Lucas Stach)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v2] dmabuf-sync: Introduce buffer synchronization framework
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:22:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371637326.4230.24.camel@weser.hi.pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008601ce6cb0$2c8cec40$85a6c4c0$%dae@samsung.com>

Am Mittwoch, den 19.06.2013, 14:45 +0900 schrieb Inki Dae:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lucas Stach [mailto:l.stach at pengutronix.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:47 PM
> > To: Inki Dae
> > Cc: 'Russell King - ARM Linux'; 'linux-fbdev'; 'Kyungmin Park'; 'DRI
> > mailing list'; 'myungjoo.ham'; 'YoungJun Cho'; linux-arm-
> > kernel at lists.infradead.org; linux-media at vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] dmabuf-sync: Introduce buffer synchronization
> > framework
> > 
> > Am Dienstag, den 18.06.2013, 18:04 +0900 schrieb Inki Dae:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > > a display device driver.  It shouldn't be used within a single driver
> > > > as a means of passing buffers between userspace and kernel space.
> > >
> > > What I try to do is not really such ugly thing. What I try to do is to
> > > notify that, when CPU tries to access a buffer , to kernel side through
> > > dmabuf interface. So it's not really to send the buffer to kernel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Inki Dae
> > >
> > The most basic question about why you are trying to implement this sort
> > of thing in the dma_buf framework still stands.
> > 
> > Once you imported a dma_buf into your DRM driver it's a GEM object and
> > you can and should use the native DRM ioctls to prepare/end a CPU access
> > to this BO. Then internally to your driver you can use the dma_buf
> > reservation/fence stuff to provide the necessary cross-device sync.
> > 
> 
> I don't really want that is used only for DRM drivers. We really need
> it for all other DMA devices; i.e., v4l2 based drivers. That is what I
> try to do. And my approach uses reservation to use dma-buf resources
> but not dma fence stuff anymore. However, I'm looking into Radeon DRM
> driver for why we need dma fence stuff, and how we can use it if
> needed.
> 

Still I don't see the point why you need syncpoints above dma-buf. In
both the DRM and the V4L2 world we have defined points in the API where
a buffer is allowed to change domain from device to CPU and vice versa.

In DRM if you want to access a buffer with the CPU you do a cpu_prepare.
The buffer changes back to GPU domain once you do the execbuf
validation, queue a pageflip to the buffer or similar things.

In V4L2 the syncpoints for cache operations are the queue/dequeue API
entry points. Those are also the exact points to synchronize with other
hardware thus using dma-buf reserve/fence.

In all this I can't see any need for a new syncpoint primitive slapped
on top of dma-buf.

Regards,
Lucas
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-19 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-13  8:28 [RFC PATCH] dmabuf-sync: Introduce buffer synchronization framework Inki Dae
2013-06-13 11:25 ` Inki Dae
2013-06-13 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14  2:32   ` Inki Dae
2013-06-17 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Inki Dae
2013-06-17 11:34   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-06-17 13:04     ` Inki Dae
2013-06-17 13:31       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <CAAQKjZO_t_kZkU46bUPTpoJs_oE1KkEqS2OTrTYjjJYZzBf+XA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-17 15:42           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-17 16:01             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <CAAQKjZOokFKN85pygVnm7ShSa+O0ZzwxvQ0rFssgNLp+RO5pGg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-17 18:21               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-18  5:27                 ` Inki Dae
2013-06-18  8:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-18  9:04                     ` Inki Dae
2013-06-18  9:38                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-18  9:47                       ` Lucas Stach
2013-06-19  5:45                         ` Inki Dae
2013-06-19 10:22                           ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2013-06-19 10:44                             ` Inki Dae
2013-06-19 12:34                               ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]                                 ` <CAAQKjZNJD4HpnJQ7iE+Gez36066M6U0YQeUEdA0+UcSOKqeghg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-19 18:29                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-20  6:43                                     ` Inki Dae
2013-06-20  7:47                                       ` Lucas Stach
2013-06-20  8:17                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-20  8:26                                           ` Lucas Stach
2013-06-20  8:24                                         ` Inki Dae
2013-06-20 10:11                                           ` Lucas Stach
2013-06-20 11:15                                             ` Inki Dae
2013-06-21  8:54                                               ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAAQKjZOxOMuL3zh_yV7tU2LBcZ7oVryiKa+LgjTM5HLY+va8zQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-21 12:27                                                   ` Lucas Stach
2013-06-21 16:55                                                     ` Inki Dae
2013-06-21 19:02                                                       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAAQKjZNnJRddACHzD+VF=A8vJpt9SEy2ttnS3Kw0y3hexu8dnw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-25 11:32                                                           ` [RFC PATCH] " Rob Clark
2013-06-25 14:17                                                             ` Inki Dae
2013-06-25 14:49                                                               ` Jerome Glisse
2013-06-26 16:06                                                                 ` Inki Dae
2013-06-18  7:00             ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Daniel Vetter
2013-06-18 10:46               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-25  9:23                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-26 17:18                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-17 13:31       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-06-19  9:10   ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Inki Dae

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