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From: mbizon@freebox.fr (Maxime Bizon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better?
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:12:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382555551.31058.24.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131023185116.GJ5208@netboy>


On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 20:51 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:

> I have no problem with new kernel features unlocked by new DT
> bindings.
> 
> I *do* have a problem with new kernels breaking existing DT bindings.

well this assume the new feature does not need modifying an existing
binding.

again taking the Kirkwood crypto example, the driver was written using
lets say "PIO" mode, and a patch has been posted recently that mostly
rewrite the driver to use DMA mode after.

chances are the binding written by the first developer would not be the
same at all as the second

does the "DT bindings validation team" will have to look inside SOC
datasheet and decide whether the developer described the hardware
correctly ?

In another post, someone proposed that time would tell if a binding was
"stable" enough. In that case that's not true, 2 years have passed
before someone took a glance at what the hardware could do and proposed
a different implementation.

-- 
Maxime

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-23 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 171+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-20 21:26 ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Stephen Warren
2013-10-20 22:08 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-20 22:21   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21  1:00     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-21  9:15       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 14:57         ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-21 17:07         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-21 20:24           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22  9:24           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:30             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:06               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:22           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-21 20:29       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 20:40         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22  9:39           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 15:04             ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 17:13               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-22 17:49                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23  8:06                 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23  9:49                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:16                     ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:25                       ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:05                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:57                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 20:12                           ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 17:55                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 18:13                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 20:35                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:29                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 17:45                     ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:46                       ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-23 18:51                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:12                           ` Maxime Bizon [this message]
2013-10-24  9:52                         ` Grant Likely
2013-10-24 11:33                           ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 11:47                             ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:13                               ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 12:22                                 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:22                                 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:05                                   ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 13:14                                     ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:46                                       ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 19:52                                         ` Matt Porter
2013-10-24 20:11                                       ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-25  9:00                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 12:23                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 12:29                                 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:00                                 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 13:10                                   ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:30                                     ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 14:05                                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:19                                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:30                                           ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:38                                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:39                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 16:45                                               ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 17:08                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 18:15                                                 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-10-24 14:32                                           ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 14:47                                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:37                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:33                                           ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 14:57                                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:27                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:12                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:22                                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:23                                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:38                                           ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:58                                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 19:58                                         ` Matt Porter
2013-10-24 23:54                                       ` Grant Likely
2013-10-25  8:52                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-25  9:16                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:47                     ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:58                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 18:02                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 18:23                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24  8:34                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:00                             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 19:46                               ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:01                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 18:25                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 18:30                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:54                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-24  8:06                             ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24  8:17                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24  8:52                                 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-23 23:29                           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24  7:32                             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24  9:35                               ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24 12:02                         ` Andre Heider
2013-10-24  8:01                     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24  8:11                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:42               ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 18:21                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-22 18:36                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 19:16                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:12                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:41                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 21:39                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23  8:50                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23  9:02                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:42                   ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 10:04                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 11:48                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 16:29                       ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22  6:47       ` David Brown
2013-10-20 23:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-20 23:44   ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-20 23:51     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21  0:13       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-21 20:05     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22  9:45       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21  8:32   ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-21  8:48     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21  9:27       ` Sascha Hauer
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2013-10-21  9:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 10:24           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 10:41               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22  9:19             ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-21 20:09           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 23:18           ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24  1:14         ` Rob Clark
2013-10-24  7:28           ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24  9:00             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24  9:21               ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 21:21             ` Rob Clark
2013-10-25  9:24               ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 12:45               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:37                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 16:11                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 16:18                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:43                     ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19 13:54                 ` Grant Likely
2013-10-21 10:04       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:57       ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 10:00   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 11:18   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-10-21  8:54 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 20:19   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 22:51     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 10:27       ` James Hogan
2013-10-22 16:31         ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-10-22 16:49           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:35             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:10               ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23  7:57                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 16:01                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 21:07                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:18                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-01 10:36                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-01 13:30                           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:48         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 10:25     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:44 ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-23 11:41   ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 23:02     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rob Herring
2013-11-18 12:26 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 13:40   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 13:57     ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:29       ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 15:50         ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 16:06           ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 17:16             ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19  9:35               ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-19 17:27                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-20 13:29                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:35             ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19  9:11               ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-19 10:16                 ` Mark Brown

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