From: mbizon@freebox.fr (Maxime Bizon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better?
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:46:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382622360.6040.79.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <addbb1933c62983e0114eeda7ce51342.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org>
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 13:14 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> If DMA gives a performance boost for all workloads, what bloody idiot
> defined or reviewed a DT binding that didn't include the information which
who defined it:
- hobbyist programmer without DMA knowledge
- hobbyist programmer without time
- hobbyist programmer without datasheet access
- SOC-vendor employed programmer with deadline
who reviewed it:
- someone without time
- someone without datasheet access
- no-one (programmer was part of DT team :)
> It's the difference between doing it as a matter of course, and doing it
> only in the very rare "OMG we fucked up but we really *need* to fix it up
> this time" case.
we manage to screw syscalls, even with the amount of people that have
the ability to review them (as opposed to hardware when you need
datasheet)
few syscalls, lots of hardware.
--
Maxime
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2013-10-20 21:26 ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Stephen Warren
2013-10-20 22:08 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-20 22:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 1:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-21 9:15 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 14:57 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-21 17:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-21 20:24 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22 9:24 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:06 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-21 20:29 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 20:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 9:39 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 15:04 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-22 17:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 8:06 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 9:49 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:16 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:25 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:05 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 20:12 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 17:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 18:13 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 20:35 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 17:45 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:46 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-23 18:51 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:12 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 9:52 ` Grant Likely
2013-10-24 11:33 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 11:47 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:13 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:05 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 13:14 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:46 ` Maxime Bizon [this message]
2013-10-24 19:52 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-24 20:11 ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-25 9:00 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 12:23 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 12:29 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:00 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:30 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 14:05 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:19 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:30 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:38 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 16:45 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 17:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 18:15 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-10-24 14:32 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 14:47 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:33 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 14:57 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:12 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:22 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:23 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:38 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 14:58 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 19:58 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-24 23:54 ` Grant Likely
2013-10-25 8:52 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-25 9:16 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:47 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 18:23 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 8:34 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:00 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 19:46 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 18:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 18:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-24 8:06 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 8:17 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 8:52 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-23 23:29 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24 7:32 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 9:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24 12:02 ` Andre Heider
2013-10-24 8:01 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 8:11 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 18:21 ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-22 18:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 19:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:12 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 21:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 8:50 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 9:02 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:42 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 10:04 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 11:48 ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 16:29 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 6:47 ` David Brown
2013-10-20 23:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-20 23:44 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-20 23:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 0:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-21 20:05 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 8:32 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-21 8:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 9:27 ` Sascha Hauer
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2013-10-21 9:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 10:24 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-10-21 10:41 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 9:19 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-21 20:09 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 23:18 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 1:14 ` Rob Clark
2013-10-24 7:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 9:00 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 9:21 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 21:21 ` Rob Clark
2013-10-25 9:24 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:37 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 16:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 16:18 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:43 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19 13:54 ` Grant Likely
2013-10-21 10:04 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:57 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 10:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 11:18 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-10-21 8:54 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 20:19 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 22:51 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 10:27 ` James Hogan
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-10-22 16:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:35 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:10 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 7:57 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 16:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 21:07 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-01 10:36 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-01 13:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:48 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 10:25 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:44 ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-23 11:41 ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 23:02 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rob Herring
2013-11-18 12:26 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 13:40 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 13:57 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:29 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 15:50 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 16:06 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 17:16 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 9:35 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-19 17:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-20 13:29 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:35 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19 9:11 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-19 10:16 ` Mark Brown
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