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From: tixy@linaro.org (Jon Medhurst (Tixy))
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:47:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1395658064.3465.7.camel@linaro1.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK_8adL=6DoF9gFBMWxKcxKUHw7238ighE2agFU7cqhWg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2014-03-23 at 16:21 -0600, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Laura Abbott <lauraa@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> > On 2/17/2014 4:34 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11:07AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >>>>> Introduce "CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA" to mostly match the x86 config, though
> >>>>> the behavior is different: it depends on STRICT_KERNMEM_PERMS, which
> >>>>> sets rodata read-only (but executable), where as this option additionally
> >>>>> splits rodata from the kernel text (resulting in potentially more memory
> >>>>> lost to padding) and sets it non-executable as well. The end result is
> >>>>> that on builds with CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=y (like x86) the rodata with be
> >>>>> marked purely read-only.
> >>>>
> >>>> This triggers an Oops in kexec, because we have a block of code in .text
> >>>> which is a template for generating baremetal code to relocate the new
> >>>> kernel, and some literal words are written into it before copying.
> >>>
> >>> You're writing into the text area? I would imagine that
> >>> CONFIG_ARM_KERNMEM_PERMS would break that. However, that's not the
> >>> right place to be building code -- shouldn't the module area be used
> >>> for that?
> >>>
> >>>> Possibly this should be in .rodata, not .text.
> >>>
> >>> Well, rodata should be neither writable nor executable.
> >>
> >> We're not writing into code exactly.
> >>
> >> This code is never executed in-place in vmlinux.  It gets copied, and
> >> only copies are ever executed.
> >>
> >> Some pointers and offsets get poked into the code to configure it.
> >>
> >> I think it would be better simply to put the code in .rodata, and
> >> poke paramaters into the copy, not the original -- but that's a bit
> >> more awkward to code up, since the values can't be poked simply by
> >> writing global variables.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> There may be a few other instances of this kind of thing.
> >>>
> >>> This config will certainly find them! :) But, that's why it's behind a config.
> >>
> >> I haven't tested exhaustively, but it think this is sufficient for a
> >> Tested-by.  The patch does seem to be doing what it is intended to
> >> do, and doesn't seem to be triggering false positives all over the
> >> place.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> Are you aware of similar situations on other arches?
> >>>
> >>> I think there were some problems a long time ago on x86 for rodata too.
> >>
> >> It would be good to get this kexec case fixed -- I'll try to hack up
> >> a separate patch.
> >>
> >
> > FWIW, we've hit issues not just with kexec but kprobes as well. The same
> > problems exist with this series:
> 
> For this stage, how about I make this "depends on KEXEC=n &&
> KPROBES=n"? 

There's also ftrace (CONFIG_DYNAMIC_FTRACE I believe) which modifies
kernel code with a call to probe_kernel_write(), which GDB uses as well.
 
And grepping for the patch_text() function also shows
__arch_jump_label_transform() modifies kernel code. Not sure how and
when that gets used.

-- 
Tixy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-24 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-14  1:04 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: mm: allow for stricter kernel memory perms Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Kees Cook
2014-02-14  1:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: mm: keep rodata non-executable Kees Cook
2014-02-14 16:22   ` Dave Martin
2014-02-14 19:11     ` Kees Cook
2014-02-17 12:34       ` Dave Martin
2014-02-18 18:10         ` Kees Cook
2014-02-21 12:37           ` Dave Martin
2014-02-21 13:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-21 22:09               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-13 19:07                 ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:32                   ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:20                     ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 18:47         ` Laura Abbott
2014-03-23 22:21           ` Kees Cook
2014-03-23 22:37             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-03-23 22:56               ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 10:47             ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy) [this message]
2014-03-25 22:11               ` Rabin Vincent
2014-04-01 22:34               ` Kees Cook
2014-04-01 22:54                 ` Laura Abbott
2014-04-01 22:59                   ` Kees Cook
2014-03-24 12:30           ` Dave Martin

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