From: ydroneaud@opteya.com (Yann Droneaud)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 21:27:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432322832.5304.63.camel@opteya.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com>
Hi,
[removing Cc: licensing at fsf.org]
Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 ? 12:05 +0200, Yann Droneaud a ?crit :
> Le mardi 05 mai 2015 ? 11:41 -0500, Rob Herring a ?crit :
> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe Device Tree Blob (.dtb file) built from kernel's Device
> > >
> > > Tree
> > > Sources (.dts, which #include .dtsi, which #include .h) using
> > > Device
> > > Tree Compiler (dtc) are covered by GNU General Public Licence v2
> > > (GPLv2), but cannot find any reference.
> >
> > By default yes, but we've been steering people to dual license them
> >
> > GPL/BSD.
> >
>
> Can you give me the rationale behind such dual licenses requirement ?
>
> If a BSD .dts includes GPLv2 .h, the whole is covered by GPLv2,
> so I cannot find a case where a BSD covered .dts file could be used
> alone within BSD license rights.
>
> > > As most .dtsi in arch/arm/boot/dts/ are covered by GPLv2, and,
> > > as most .h in include/dt-bindings/ are also covered by GPLv2,
> > > the source code is likely covered by GPLv2.
> > >
> > > Then this source code is translated in a different language
> > > (flattened
> > > device tree), so the resulting translation is also likely covered
> > >
> > > by
> > > GPLv2.
> > >
> > > So, when I'm proposed to download a .dtb file from a random
> > > vendor,
> > > can I require to get the associated source code ?
> >
> > I believe so yes. However, you already have the "source" for the
> > most
> > part. Just run "dtc -I dtb -O dts <dtb file>". You loose the
> > preprocessing and include structure though (not necessarily a bad
> > thing IMO).
> >
> > Then the question is what is the license on that generated dts!
> >
>
> That's also a good question.
>
> Is this a form a "reverse engineering" with all the legalese burden ?
>
> Anyway without a clear information attached to the DTB, it's
> difficult
> to tell which licence cover the "decompiled" version.
>
> > > Anyway, for a .dtb file generated from kernel sources, it's
> > > rather
> > > painful to look after all .dts, .dtsi, .h, to find what kind of
> > > licences are applicables, as some are covered by BSD, dual
> > > licensed
> > > (any combination of X11, MIT, BSD, GPLv2).
> >
> > I imagine the includes cause some licensing discrepancies if you
> > dug
> > into it.
> >
>
> It's a pity, and it's probably something to sort out.
>
> DTB files produced as part of kernel compilation should have a well
> known license attached by default.
>
I've added licensing at fsf.ogrg in Cc: in my previous message to have an
advice on this subject, but I failed to notice licensing at fsf.org
is not a mailing list: I was assigned request ID [gnu.org #1017262].
Regards.
--
Yann Droneaud
OPTEYA
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-05 10:05 Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence Yann Droneaud
2015-05-05 16:41 ` Rob Herring
2015-05-22 10:05 ` Yann Droneaud
2015-05-22 16:26 ` Rob Herring
2015-05-28 12:31 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-22 19:27 ` Yann Droneaud [this message]
2015-05-25 7:14 ` Rob Landley
2015-05-25 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-05-28 12:32 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-28 13:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-28 16:52 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-29 6:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-05-29 11:35 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-29 22:16 ` David Lang
2015-05-30 15:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-01 13:12 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-06-01 15:19 ` Warner Losh
2015-05-29 3:31 ` Rob Landley
2015-05-29 15:10 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-29 22:21 ` David Lang
2015-05-30 2:43 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2015-06-22 12:57 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-30 19:59 ` Jeroen Hofstee
2015-05-31 7:12 ` Warner Losh
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