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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH v3 18/19] iommu: exynos: init from dt-specific callback instead of initcall
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:21:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1793344.bWpPveHxzq@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1518515.QutUfiWrAf@avalon>

On Thursday 18 December 2014 22:36:14 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
> > (currently only on ARM64, not ARM32, until someone adds support). I can see
> > your point regarding machines that have a mandatory IOMMU with no fallback
> > when there is no driver, but we can support them by making the iommu driver
> > selected through Kconfig for that platform, while still allowing other
> > platforms to work with drivers left out of the kernel.
> 
> The question is how to tell the kernel not to wait for an IOMMU that will 
> never be there. Would a kernel command line argument be an acceptable solution 
> or do we need something more automatic ?

I would hope that we can find an automatic solution without relying on
the command line.

Unfortunately, I also remembered one case in support of what Lucas mentioned
and that would break this: There is at least one SoC that uses cache-coherent
DMA only when the IOMMU (ARM SMMU IIRC)is enabled, but is non-coherent
otherwise. We can't really express that in DT, so we actually do rely on
the IOMMU driver to be present on this machine when any "iommus" properties
are used, as they would always come in combination with "dma-coherent"
properties that are otherwise wrong.

We can still enforce this by requiring the smmu driver to be built into
the kernel on this platform, but simply saying that the device cannot
support DMA as long as there is an iommus property but no driver for
it does make a lot of sense.

Note that there are more than two ways that the kernel could treat
the situation of probing a device with a valid iommus reference but
no driver loaded for the iommu:

a) assume all iommu drivers are initialized early, so use linear or
   swiotlb dma_map_ops, and probe the driver normally. This breaks
   the scenario with conditionally coherent devices, and requires doing
   the iommu init early
b) assume all iommu drivers are initialized early, so disallow any DMA
   by setting a zero dma_mask but allow the driver to be probed using
   polling I/O mode (useful for slow devices like UART or SPI)
   This breaks devices that require DMA but can fall back to linear
   or swiotlb mappings, and requires doing the iommu init early.
c) defer probing until an iommu driver is gets initialized. This breaks
   both the cases where we could fall back to a sane behavior without
   iommu, but it would let us use a proper driver with regular power
   management etc.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-18 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-19 11:15 [PATCH v3 00/19] Exynos SYSMMU (IOMMU) integration with DT and DMA-mapping subsystem Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] iommu: fix const qualifier in of_iommu_set_ops Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] iommu: fix initialization without 'add_device' callback Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] arm: dma-mapping: add missing check for iommu Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] drm: exynos: detach from default dma-mapping domain on init Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] arm: exynos: pm_domains: add support for devices registered before arch_initcall Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] ARM: dts: exynos4: add sysmmu nodes Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] iommu: exynos: don't read version register on every tlb operation Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] iommu: exynos: remove unused functions Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] iommu: exynos: remove useless spinlock Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] iommu: exynos: refactor function parameters to simplify code Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] iommu: exynos: remove unused functions, part 2 Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] iommu: exynos: remove useless device_add/remove callbacks Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] iommu: exynos: add support for binding more than one sysmmu to master device Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] iommu: exynos: add support for runtime_pm Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] iommu: exynos: rename variables to reflect their purpose Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] iommu: exynos: document internal structures Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] iommu: exynos: remove excessive includes and sort others alphabetically Marek Szyprowski
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] iommu: exynos: init from dt-specific callback instead of initcall Marek Szyprowski
2014-12-14 12:45   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15  9:47     ` Thierry Reding
2014-12-15 17:17     ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 17:27       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 17:43         ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 17:53           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 18:13             ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 18:19               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-16 10:58                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-12-16 11:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 12:07                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-16 12:10                   ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 23:24                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-17 14:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 14:39                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-17 15:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 16:02                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-17 21:58                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 22:38                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-17 14:53                         ` Lucas Stach
2014-12-17 15:56                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-18 20:36                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-18 23:21                               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-11-19 11:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] iommu: exynos: add callback for initializing devices from device tree Marek Szyprowski
2014-12-02  9:59 ` [PATCH v3 00/19] Exynos SYSMMU (IOMMU) integration with DT and DMA-mapping subsystem Sjoerd Simons
2014-12-05 10:22   ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-01-06  9:49     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-07  2:03       ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-07  9:33         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-07  9:55           ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-08 16:42             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-12  6:40               ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-12  9:43                 ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-12 16:09                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-13  5:24                   ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-13  8:40                     ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-13  9:43                       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-13  9:21                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-14  0:19                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-14  0:24                       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-20 11:12                         ` Joonyoung Shim
2015-01-20 14:05                           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-01-16 10:33   ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-01-16 15:44     ` Sjoerd Simons

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