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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 00/17] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:40:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1809831.d9GPSfLUEN@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150116153320.GU7091@arm.com>

On Friday 16 January 2015 15:33:20 Will Deacon wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 03:14:13PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Friday 16 January 2015 14:55:45 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 02:45:30PM +0000, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> > > > I have tested ACPI-enablement patches for the amd-xgbe/amd-xgbe-phy
> > > > drivers that I'm about to submit upstream with the V7 patch series
> > > > on the AMD Seattle server platform. There does not appear to be support
> > > > for the _CCA attribute in this patch series. The amd-xgbe driver will
> > > > setup the device domain and cache attributes based on the presence of
> > > > this attribute, but it requires the arch support to assign the proper
> > > > DMA operations in order for it to all work correctly.
> > > > 
> > > > Overriding the _CCA attribute in the driver, I was able to successfully
> > > > test the driver and this patch series.
> > > 
> > > Hopefully this will all be addressed when the IORT parts of ACPI have
> > > settled down (the current proposal allows for these attributes to be
> > > described as well as their interaction with things like IOMMUs).
> > > 
> > > In the meantime, are you falling back to non-coherent DMA? If so, what
> > > attributes have you settled on? We need to be really careful not to
> > > corrupt data during cache invalidatation when mapping a non-coherent
> > > buffer for the CPU.
> > 
> > I think in case of ACPI we should use cache-coherent as the default,
> > as this is what all servers will use for DMA masters.
> 
> I don't agree. The dma-coherent we have for device-tree isn't nearly
> expressive enough for the kind of things we want to describe and there's
> no reason to make the same mistake in ACPI, especially as it *is* being
> addressed by IORT. If we run with _CCA, then we're going to be stuck
> supporting something that isn't fit for purpose and which will likely be
> abused to describe both fixed features of the system and software
> configuration preferences. It also opens up a can of worms if we have to
> support a mixture of _CCA and IORT in the future.
> 
> Or are you suggesting that we ignore _CCA and just assume cache-coherency?
> In that case, how do we support systems that aren't cache coherent, where
> not being cache coherent includes devices that require either device or
> IOMMU configuration to enable cacheable transactions?

I was thinking we'd ignore _CCA because as you say a simple on/off flag
would not be enough to describe what we have to do for noncoherent
devices. I can't think of any reason why a server hardware would include
noncoherent devices, so if they are configurable they should be configured
into coherent mode by the firmware.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-16 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-14 15:04 [PATCH v7 00/17] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 01/17] arm64: allow late use of early_ioremap Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:44   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 02/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:45   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 03/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce sleep-arm.c Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:45   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 04/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" and pass acpi=force to enable ACPI Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-19 11:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 11:55     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-19 13:51       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 14:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-19 14:22           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 15:13         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-19 16:59           ` Jon Masters
2015-01-19 17:52             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 18:01               ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-20  9:29                 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 10:56                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 11:10                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-20 12:17                     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 12:31                     ` Leif Lindholm
2015-01-20 19:20                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-21  9:43                     ` Parth Dixit
2015-01-21 15:23                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 15:29                       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-21 15:42                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 15:56                           ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-21 16:05                           ` Jon Masters
2015-01-21 16:16                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 16:51                               ` Parth Dixit
2015-01-21 16:10                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-22 12:29                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-28 17:58   ` [Linaro-acpi] " Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 18:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-28 18:08     ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 18:14       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-28 18:18         ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 15:19           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 18:20             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-29 18:21               ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 18:28                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-29 18:34                   ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 18:44                     ` Jon Masters
2015-01-29 23:11                       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 23:16                         ` Jon Masters
2015-01-29 23:30                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-30 11:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-30 14:48                 ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-30 15:12                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 05/17] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-19 11:45   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 06/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16  9:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-18  6:25     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-18  6:31       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-18  6:46         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-18  9:29           ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-18 12:32             ` Jon Masters
2015-01-19  4:26             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-19 10:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 10:42       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20  2:39         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 11:00           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 11:56             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 12:26             ` [Linaro-acpi] " Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 15:10               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 07/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Disable ACPI if FADT revision is less than 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 14:33   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-18  5:49     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-19 11:50   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20  3:05     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 08/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Get PSCI flags in FADT for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 09/17] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 10/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 18:18   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-20 13:09     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 15:16       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 11/17] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-20 11:17   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 12:26     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 16:16   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 12/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 10:45   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 13/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 11:15   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-16 13:54     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-16 14:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-22 12:46         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-22 14:46           ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-23  9:38             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-27 16:12         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-29 15:29           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 16:06             ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 10:40     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 13:05       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 14/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 15/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 16/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 17/17] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:54   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-15 16:26 ` [PATCH v7 00/17] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Grant Likely
2015-01-15 18:23   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-15 19:02     ` Mark Brown
2015-01-15 20:04       ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-15 20:31         ` Mark Brown
2015-01-15 20:51           ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-16 11:49             ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16  7:24           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-16 10:10         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 12:05           ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 12:29             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 16:54               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18  6:36           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 21:31     ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 21:38       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-16 10:20       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 15:17         ` [Linaro-acpi] " Al Stone
2015-01-16 15:23           ` Al Stone
2015-01-16 15:44           ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2015-01-16  7:17     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-16 10:04       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 14:45       ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 14:55         ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-16 15:25             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 15:33             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:40               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-01-16 15:43                 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-16 15:49                 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:53                   ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-17 17:53                     ` Rob Herring
2015-01-16 17:12                   ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 15:16           ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 16:29     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-16 17:20       ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-17 11:52       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-15 18:58 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-15 19:49 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16  8:37   ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 21:33 ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2015-01-27 17:46 ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 13:53   ` Hanjun Guo

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