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From: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	scott@os.amperecomputing.com, cl@gentwo.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/6] arm64: mm: split linear mapping if BBML2 unsupported on secondary CPUs
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 10:54:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c9093da-3ae5-4d13-a56d-592f92a63d51@os.amperecomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLnFd1Hl_FSHZR3z@arm.com>



On 9/4/25 9:59 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 12:52:46PM +0100, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> The kernel linear mapping is painted in very early stage of system boot.
>> The cpufeature has not been finalized yet at this point. So the linear
>> mapping is determined by the capability of boot CPU only. If the boot
>> CPU supports BBML2, large block mappings will be used for linear
>> mapping.
>>
>> But the secondary CPUs may not support BBML2, so repaint the linear
>> mapping if large block mapping is used and the secondary CPUs don't
>> support BBML2 once cpufeature is finalized on all CPUs.
>>
>> If the boot CPU doesn't support BBML2 or the secondary CPUs have the
>> same BBML2 capability with the boot CPU, repainting the linear mapping
>> is not needed.
>>
>> Repainting is implemented by the boot CPU, which we know supports BBML2,
>> so it is safe for the live mapping size to change for this CPU. The
>> linear map region is walked using the pagewalk API and any discovered
>> large leaf mappings are split to pte mappings using the existing helper
>> functions. Since the repainting is performed inside of a stop_machine(),
>> we must use GFP_ATOMIC to allocate the extra intermediate pgtables. But
>> since we are still early in boot, it is expected that there is plenty of
>> memory available so we will never need to sleep for reclaim, and so
>> GFP_ATOMIC is acceptable here.
>>
>> The secondary CPUs are all put into a waiting area with the idmap in
>> TTBR0 and reserved map in TTBR1 while this is performed since they
>> cannot be allowed to observe any size changes on the live mappings. Some
>> of this infrastructure is reused from the kpti case. Specifically we
>> share the same flag (was __idmap_kpti_flag, now idmap_kpti_bbml2_flag)
>> since it means we don't have to reserve any extra pgtable memory to
>> idmap the extra flag.
>>
>> Co-developed-by: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> I think this works, so:
>
> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>

Thank you!

>
> However, I wonder how likely we are to find this combination in the
> field to be worth carrying this code upstream. With kpti, we were aware
> of platforms requiring it but is this also the case for BBM? If not, I'd
> keep the patch out until we get a concrete example.

At least we (Ampere) are very very unlikely to ship asymmetric systems 
AFAICT.

Thanks,
Yang

>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-04 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 11:52 [PATCH v7 0/6] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] arm64: Enable permission change on arm64 kernel block mappings Ryan Roberts
     [not found]   ` <7705c29b-4f08-4b56-aab3-024795ee9124@huawei.com>
2025-09-04 11:06     ` Ryan Roberts
     [not found]       ` <a985c9f0-1561-45d7-860f-2717a0a72d9e@huawei.com>
2025-09-04 13:21         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] arm64: cpufeature: add AmpereOne to BBML2 allow list Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:08   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:07     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03 17:24   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04  0:49     ` Yang Shi
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] arm64: mm: support large block mapping when rodata=full Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03 19:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04  0:52     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:09     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 11:15   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 14:57     ` Yang Shi
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] arm64: mm: Optimize split_kernel_leaf_mapping() Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:11   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-03 19:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04 11:09     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] arm64: mm: split linear mapping if BBML2 unsupported on secondary CPUs Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 16:59   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-04 17:54     ` Yang Shi [this message]
2025-08-29 11:52 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] arm64: mm: Optimize linear_map_split_to_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2025-08-29 22:27   ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 11:10     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 14:58       ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 17:00   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-01  5:04 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] arm64: support FEAT_BBM level 2 and large block mapping when rodata=full Dev Jain
2025-09-01  8:03   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-03  0:21     ` Yang Shi
2025-09-03  0:50       ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 13:14         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 13:16           ` Ryan Roberts
2025-09-04 17:47             ` Yang Shi
2025-09-04 21:49               ` Yang Shi

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