From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:07:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090921100751.GF27357@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253526263.1541.32.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:44:23AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> I would still call this I-D cache coherency issue since the two caches
> have a different view of the RAM but I agree that the D-cache is the one
> holding the data (with a slight chance for the I-cache not to be in sync
> with main RAM, though we could treat it separately).
>
> We can sort out the D-cache issue with your approach for cleaning it in
> the copy_user_highpage() function, but, as I said, we affect the
> standard CoW mechanism for data pages quite a lot.
Let me restate my approach more clearly:
1. Remember that a VMA has been executable.
2. Only do the additional handing if the VMA has been executable.
> Since the latest dynamic linker was fixed already to avoid writing to a
> text page, we would penalise (with either solution) user-space in the
> future even if it doesn't need this.
Great - that means a previously executable region won't be COWed anymore,
and so my patch will have no measurable impact.
> > The instruction cache issue is an entirely separate problem.
>
> We would need to fix this somehow as well. We currently handle the
> I-cache in update_mmu_cache() when a page is first mapped if it has
> VM_EXEC set.
The reason I'm pushing you hard to separate the two issues is that the
two should be treated separately. I think we need to consider ensuring
that freed pages do not have any I-cache lines associated with them,
rather than waiting for them to be allocated and then dealing with the
I-cache problem.
We need to measure what the impact of that would be.
> But mprotect() or change_protection() don't seem to call this.
That's because update_mmu_cache() is a TLB interface, not a cache
interface. You'd have to call update_mmu_cache() for every individual
page. See cachetlb.txt.
> Should we mandate a cacheflush syscall in user space when calling
> mprotect(RX)? I don't think people are expecting this.
It is not clear what effect mprotect() with harvard caches should have
on I+D coherency - certainly there's no behavioural requirements in
this regard specified by POSIX.
Given that if you have a RWX region you have to deal with the coherency
issue in userspace already, I don't see mprotect() being any different
in this regard.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-21 10:07 UTC|newest]
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2009-08-29 12:27 ` Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore Catalin Marinas
2009-08-31 8:30 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:56 ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-07 16:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 17:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-07 21:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-03 11:58 ` Dirk Behme
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2009-09-20 9:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 22:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 8:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 9:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 10:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 9:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 10:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2009-09-21 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 21:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22 8:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22 9:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 10:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 17:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 6:03 ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-23 9:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 10:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:12 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-23 12:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-23 12:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 14:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 15:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-20 11:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 14:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-26 19:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:48 ` Dirk Behme
2009-10-15 15:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-20 22:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 5:44 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2009-09-22 9:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 9:34 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
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2009-09-11 9:21 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP (was Re: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore) Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 12:55 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 13:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 15:20 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 16:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-06 6:12 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31 0:07 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31 6:22 ` Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31 9:10 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31 8:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-08-31 8:42 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
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