From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:04:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091025130439.GA32406@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255620022.10164.74.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 04:20:22PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:57 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:07:51AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:44:23AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > We would need to fix this somehow as well. We currently handle the
> > > > I-cache in update_mmu_cache() when a page is first mapped if it has
> > > > VM_EXEC set.
> > >
> > > The reason I'm pushing you hard to separate the two issues is that the
> > > two should be treated separately. I think we need to consider ensuring
> > > that freed pages do not have any I-cache lines associated with them,
> > > rather than waiting for them to be allocated and then dealing with the
> > > I-cache problem.
> >
> > Having now benchmarked this (making flush_cache_* always invalidate
> > the I-cache, so free'd pages are I-cache clean), and to me, the results
> > quite look promising - please try out this patch.
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c b/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > index d0d17b6..b9c1cd4 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > @@ -160,8 +160,6 @@ void update_mmu_cache(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr, pte_t pte)
> > if (mapping) {
> > if (cache_is_vivt())
> > make_coherent(mapping, vma, addr, pfn);
> > - else if (vma->vm_flags & VM_EXEC)
> > - __flush_icache_all();
> > }
> > }
>
> Before trying the patch, I don't entirely agree with the approach. You
> will get speculative fetches in the I-cache via the kernel linear
> mapping (where NX is always cleared) on newer processors and may end up
> with random faults in user space (not that likely but not impossible
> either).
BTW, if this is your view, we should get rid of the I-cache flushing for
the aliasing VIPT caches in the flush_cache_* functions - to make them
behave in the same way as VIPT non-aliasing.
Having these functions behave in one way for VIPT non-aliasing and
a different way for VIPT aliasing caches as far as I/D coherency is
stupid.
However, as a general point, Linux's cache flushing APIs are predicated
on the notion that there is no speculative fetches going on - for
instance, when mappings are removed, the following procedure is
adhered to:
flush_cache();
change page tables
flush_tlb();
I suspect that the right solution to the problems with speculative
fetches is that we need to invent a new cache API to adequately cover
this - and since we'll be the only architecture needing the API, you
can expect it to have a very high maintainence cost.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-25 13:04 UTC|newest]
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2009-08-29 12:27 ` Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore Catalin Marinas
2009-08-31 8:30 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:56 ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-07 16:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 17:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-07 21:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-03 11:58 ` Dirk Behme
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2009-09-20 9:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 22:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 8:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 9:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 10:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 8:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 9:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 10:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 21:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22 8:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22 9:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 10:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 17:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 6:03 ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-23 9:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 10:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:12 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-23 12:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-23 12:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 14:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 15:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-20 11:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 14:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-26 19:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:48 ` Dirk Behme
2009-10-15 15:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2009-10-26 18:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-20 22:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 5:44 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2009-09-22 9:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 9:34 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
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2009-09-11 9:21 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP (was Re: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore) Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 12:55 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 13:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 15:20 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 16:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-06 6:12 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31 0:07 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31 6:22 ` Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31 9:10 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31 8:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-08-31 8:42 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
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