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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:04:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091025130439.GA32406@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255620022.10164.74.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 04:20:22PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:57 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:07:51AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:44:23AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > We would need to fix this somehow as well. We currently handle the
> > > > I-cache in update_mmu_cache() when a page is first mapped if it has
> > > > VM_EXEC set.
> > > 
> > > The reason I'm pushing you hard to separate the two issues is that the
> > > two should be treated separately.  I think we need to consider ensuring
> > > that freed pages do not have any I-cache lines associated with them,
> > > rather than waiting for them to be allocated and then dealing with the
> > > I-cache problem.
> > 
> > Having now benchmarked this (making flush_cache_* always invalidate
> > the I-cache, so free'd pages are I-cache clean), and to me, the results
> > quite look promising - please try out this patch.
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c b/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > index d0d17b6..b9c1cd4 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c
> > @@ -160,8 +160,6 @@ void update_mmu_cache(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr, pte_t pte)
> >  	if (mapping) {
> >  		if (cache_is_vivt())
> >  			make_coherent(mapping, vma, addr, pfn);
> > -		else if (vma->vm_flags & VM_EXEC)
> > -			__flush_icache_all();
> >  	}
> >  }
> 
> Before trying the patch, I don't entirely agree with the approach. You
> will get speculative fetches in the I-cache via the kernel linear
> mapping (where NX is always cleared) on newer processors and may end up
> with random faults in user space (not that likely but not impossible
> either).

BTW, if this is your view, we should get rid of the I-cache flushing for
the aliasing VIPT caches in the flush_cache_* functions - to make them
behave in the same way as VIPT non-aliasing.

Having these functions behave in one way for VIPT non-aliasing and
a different way for VIPT aliasing caches as far as I/D coherency is
stupid.

However, as a general point, Linux's cache flushing APIs are predicated
on the notion that there is no speculative fetches going on - for
instance, when mappings are removed, the following procedure is
adhered to:

	flush_cache();
	change page tables
	flush_tlb();

I suspect that the right solution to the problems with speculative
fetches is that we need to invent a new cache API to adequately cover
this - and since we'll be the only architecture needing the API, you
can expect it to have a very high maintainence cost.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-25 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]     ` <20090817140422.GA10764@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-29 12:27       ` Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore Catalin Marinas
2009-08-31  8:30         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:29           ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:56             ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-07 16:43               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 17:31             ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-07 21:40               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-03 11:58         ` Dirk Behme
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     [not found]           ` <1253435940.498.15.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
2009-09-20  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 19:02               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 22:46                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:31                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21  8:41                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21  9:41                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 10:08                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:49                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:54                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21  9:44                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 10:07                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 10:42                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 20:10                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 21:26                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:14                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:25                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22  8:43                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:58                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:12                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:31                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:34                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:38                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:28                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:37                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:33                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22  9:21                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 10:19                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 17:17                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23  6:03                                   ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-23  9:13                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 10:38                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:12                                         ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-23 12:42                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-23 12:51                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:55                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 14:57                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:20                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 15:28                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:56                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-20 11:39                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:39                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:40                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 14:48                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:45                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-26 19:17                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:48                                 ` Dirk Behme
2009-10-15 15:53                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:04                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2009-10-26 18:18                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-20 22:02               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22  5:44                 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2009-09-22  9:01                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22  9:34                     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
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2009-09-11  9:21                 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP (was Re: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore) Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 12:55                   ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 13:00                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 15:20                       ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 16:06                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-06  6:12                           ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31  0:07                             ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31  6:22                               ` Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31  9:10                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31  8:33                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-08-31  8:42                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi

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