From: jamie@shareable.org (Jamie Lokier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:29:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100217122959.GA13177@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100216093946.GA13884@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:07:20AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Februar 2010 09:55:55 schrieb Shilimkar, Santosh:
> > > > Would you care to elaborate on the exact nature of the bug you are fixing?
> > > On the OMAP4 (ARM cortex-a9) platform, the enumeration fails because control
> > > transfer buffers are corrupted. On our platform, we use PIO mode for control
> > > transfers and DMA for bulk transfers.
> > >
> > > The current stack performs dma cache maintenance even for the PIO transfers
> > > which leads to the corruption issue. The control buffers are handled by CPU
> > > and they already coherent from CPU point of view.
> >
> > How does the mapping corrupt buffers? It might impact performance, but why
> > do you see corruption?
>
> On map, buffers are cleaned if they're being used for DMA_TO_DEVICE and
> DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL, or invalidated in the case of DMA_FROM_DEVICE.
>
> However, because ARM CPUs can now speculatively prefetch, just leaving it
> at that results in corruption of buffers used for DMA. So we have to
> invalidate DMA_FROM_DEVICE and DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL buffers on unmap to
> ensure coherency with DMA operations.
>
> If the CPU writes to a DMA_FROM_DEVICE buffer between map and unmap, the
> writes can sit in the cache, and on unmap, they will be discarded.
>
> Cleaning the cache on unmap is not an option; that too can lead to DMA
> buffer corruption in the DMA case.
Provided the buffers are cleaned on map for
DMA_TO_DEVICE/DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL, I don't see how cleaning on unmap for
DMA_FROM_DEVICE/DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL can cause corruption. The only way
to get dirty cache lines while mapped is if the CPU did PIO to them.
If it was real DMA, the second clean should be a no-op. (Assume it's
all one or the other).
Can you explain why cleanining the cache on unmap (as well as map, in
DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL case) is not an option? Just curious, because I
don't see what would go wrong.
> USB and associated host driver must abide by the DMA API buffer
> ownership rules otherwise the result will be data corruption; either
> that or USB/host driver people need to have a discussion with the
> DMA API authors to remove this sensible "restriction".
Just in case my question gives the wrong impression, I agree that the
DMA API must be followed. Additional flushes/cleans are not good for
performance either.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-17 12:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20100129185434.GH19501@one-eyed-alien.net>
[not found] ` <1265045354.25750.52.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
2010-02-08 6:55 ` USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 7:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-08 10:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 9:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 10:03 ` Andy Green
2010-02-17 9:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2010-02-17 9:57 ` Andy Green
2010-02-08 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 11:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 7:57 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 8:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 9:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 9:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 13:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 13:40 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 13:46 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:12 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 14:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:45 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 8:55 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 9:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:17 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 17:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 20:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 20:30 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-18 6:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-18 7:14 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-17 12:29 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-02-17 3:21 ` Ming Lei
2010-02-17 9:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 9:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 10:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 12:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 9:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 20:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 22:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-19 17:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 17:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 20:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 7:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 3:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-26 0:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 12:36 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-24 2:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 21:50 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 20:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-26 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 5:01 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-01 10:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-01 11:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-02 12:11 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02 17:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 17:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 10:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 3:47 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 5:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 5:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 9:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-03 10:24 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 19:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 8:26 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 6:35 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 10:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 10:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 6:54 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-04 9:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 10:56 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-06 11:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-06 19:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 13:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 14:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-06 10:47 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-06 19:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 5:54 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 11:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-06 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07 3:37 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 8:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-09 2:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:41 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-04 16:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 17:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 17:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 18:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 22:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 4:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-05 9:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05 1:17 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-05 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-10 3:52 ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-11 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-05 4:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-07 8:23 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-08 10:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-01 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 20:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-26 21:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 4:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 2:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 22:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 23:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-28 23:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16 8:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 8:51 ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-20 7:21 ` Pete Zaitcev
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20100217122959.GA13177@shareable.org \
--to=jamie@shareable.org \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).