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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:41:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100303194111.GC4302@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1267611877.15025.59.camel@mulgrave.site>

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:54:37PM +0530, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:36 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > James, that's a pipedream.  If you have a processor which doesn't support
> > NX, then the kernel marks all regions executable, even if the app only
> > asks for RW protection.
> 
> I'm not talking about what the processor supports ... I'm talking about
> what the user sets on the VMA.  My point is that the kernel only has
> responsibility in specific situations ... it's those paths we do the I/D
> coherency on.

You may not be talking about what the processor supports, but it is
directly relevant.

> > You end up with the protection masks always having VM_EXEC set in them,
> > so there's no way to distinguish from the kernel POV which pages are
> > going to be executed and those which aren't.
> 
> I think you're talking about the pte page flags, I'm talking about the
> VMA ones above.

No, I'm talking about the VMA ones.

        if ((prot & PROT_READ) && (current->personality & READ_IMPLIES_EXEC))
                if (!(file && (file->f_path.mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NOEXEC)))
                        prot |= PROT_EXEC;
...
        /* Do simple checking here so the lower-level routines won't have
         * to. we assume access permissions have been handled by the open
         * of the memory object, so we don't do any here.
         */
        vm_flags = calc_vm_prot_bits(prot) | calc_vm_flag_bits(flags) |
                        mm->def_flags | VM_MAYREAD | VM_MAYWRITE | VM_MAYEXEC;

calc_vm_prot_bits(unsigned long prot)
{
        return _calc_vm_trans(prot, PROT_READ,  VM_READ ) |
               _calc_vm_trans(prot, PROT_WRITE, VM_WRITE) |
               _calc_vm_trans(prot, PROT_EXEC,  VM_EXEC) |
               arch_calc_vm_prot_bits(prot);
}

So, if you have a CPU which does not support NX, then READ_IMPLIES_EXEC
is set in the personality.  That forces PROT_EXEC for anything with
PROT_READ, which in turn forces VM_EXEC.

> I'm not saying the common path (faulting in text sections) is the
> responsibility of user space.  I'm saying the uncommon path, write
> modification of binaries, is.  So the kernel only needs to worry about
> the ordinary text fault path.

What I'm saying is that you can't always tell the difference between
what's an executable page and what isn't in the kernel.  On NX-incapable
CPUs, the kernel treats *all* readable pages as executable, and there's
no way to tell from the VMA or page protection flags that this isn't
the case.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-03 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100129185434.GH19501@one-eyed-alien.net>
     [not found] ` <1265045354.25750.52.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
2010-02-08  6:55   ` USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency Pavel Machek
2010-02-08  7:33     ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-08 10:19       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08  9:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 10:03       ` Andy Green
2010-02-17  9:50         ` Sascha Hauer
2010-02-17  9:57           ` Andy Green
2010-02-08 10:52       ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 11:28         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16  7:57           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16  8:22             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16  8:55               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16  9:07                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16  9:39                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 13:32                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 13:40                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 13:46                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:12                           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 14:22                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:45                               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 15:44                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17  8:55                               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17  9:10                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17  9:17                                   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 17:02                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 20:26                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 20:30                                   ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-18  6:56                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-18  7:14                                       ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-17 12:29                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-17  3:21                 ` Ming Lei
2010-02-17  9:05               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17  9:15                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17  9:40                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:09                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 10:18                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:23                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 12:15                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17  9:55                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 10:05                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 15:27                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 20:37                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:44                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 22:31                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-19 17:15                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 17:36                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 20:53                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24  2:48                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24  7:16                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 21:12                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25  3:48                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-26  0:22                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 12:36                                     ` James Bottomley
2010-02-24  2:47                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 16:19                               ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 21:13                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 21:50                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 20:52                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:00                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:36                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:25                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 16:52                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-26 21:51                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:00                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:14                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28  5:01                                     ` James Bottomley
2010-03-01 10:39                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-01 11:06                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-02 12:11                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02 17:05                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 17:47                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:33                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 10:21                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:29                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  3:47                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03  5:10                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  5:40                                                 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03  9:36                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-03 10:24                                                     ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 19:41                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2010-03-04  2:00                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04  8:26                                                     ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 21:25                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  6:35                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 10:43                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 10:40                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 21:54                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04  6:54                                             ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-04  9:31                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 10:56                                                 ` Wolfgang Mües
2010-03-06 11:05                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-06 19:44                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 13:47                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:35                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:51                                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 14:21                                                 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 14:27                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 15:25                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:34                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 21:31                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-06 10:47                                                     ` James Bottomley
2010-03-06 19:36                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 21:07                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07  5:54                                                         ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 11:17                                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-06 21:03                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07  3:37                                                         ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08  8:46                                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-09  2:25                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:29                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:41                                                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-04 16:30                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 17:34                                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 17:54                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 18:07                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 21:37                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 22:11                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05  4:34                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-05  9:27                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05  1:17                                                           ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-05  4:44                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-10  3:52                                                               ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-11 21:44                                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:34                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:28                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:40                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-05  4:31                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:35                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-07  8:23                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-08 10:57                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:26                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-01 10:42                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 20:24                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-26 21:40                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:49                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:24                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 19:17                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 11:10                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02  4:11                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24  2:39                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:44                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:49                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 22:03                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:29                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 23:20                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-28 23:17                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:27                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:39                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16  8:44             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16  8:51               ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-20  7:21                 ` Pete Zaitcev

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