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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not generate segfault
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:41:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100420224108.GA1432@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100420223106.GQ11723@shareable.org>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:31:06PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > User programs do not have permission to read kernel addresses.  Trying to
> > do so _should_ generate a permission fault.
> >
> > > probably best to get Russell's opinion.
> > 
> > 	if (user_mode(regs))
> > 		goto bad_area;
> > 
> > should be sufficient, since userspace should not be accessing anything
> > above TASK_SIZE, except for the exception page, which will always be
> > mapped.
> 
> Those two lines look good to me, or alternatively change
> 
>         if (addr < TASK_SIZE)
> to 
>         if (addr < TASK_SIZE || user_mode(regs))
> 
> which lead to the same SIGSEGV by a more complicated route.  That will
> continue to work if user-accessible pages are ever mapped using the
> vmalloc lazy method.

That'd be very disgusting if it ever happened.

> But a possible NAK: What happens when the kernel does get/put_user()
> on an address > TASK_SIZE with kernel-only mapping?  user_mode()
> returns 0, so the LDRT will loop in the kernel, won't it?

No - the first data fault will cause the pgd entry to be copied, and then
the subsequent data fault will be a permission fault.

The difference between instruction faults and data faults is that we
always interpret instruction faults on pre-ARMv6 CPUs as a 'translation
fault' rather than a permission fault since they can't tell us what the
problem was.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20  9:14 kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not generate segfault Sasha Sirotkin
2010-04-20  9:34 ` Ben Dooks
2010-04-20 10:27   ` Dave P. Martin
2010-04-20 14:20     ` anfei
2010-04-20 17:09       ` Ben Dooks
2010-04-20 19:28         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-20 22:31           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 22:41             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2010-04-21  0:33               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 11:17               ` kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not generatesegfault Dave P. Martin
2010-04-21 12:43                 ` anfei
2010-04-21 16:07                   ` Dave P. Martin
2010-04-21 19:16                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:40                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 21:00                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:36                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 19:35                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 21:24                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-21 21:44                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 21:54                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 22:59                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-22 10:56                           ` Dave P. Martin
2010-04-22 12:29                             ` anfei
2010-04-22 13:18                               ` Dave P. Martin
2010-04-22 15:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 13:11           ` kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not generate segfault anfei
2010-04-21 19:45             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-08 13:29             ` anfei
2010-06-08 13:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 14:19                 ` anfei

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