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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: udelay() broken for SMP cores?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:29:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100421192911.GA26616@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100421100008.GE13114@shareable.org>

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00:08AM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > Well, the assumption is that the CPUs will be running at their fastest
> > speed at boot time, and therefore loops_per_jiffy will be calibrated
> > such that we guarantee _at least_ the asked-for delay - which is the
> > only guarantee udelay has.
> 
> That's an interesting and not altogether reliable assumption.

That depends which bit you're talking about.  udelay() must give you the
delay you asked for, or a longer delay.  If it gives you a shorter delay,
it's buggy plain and simple.

> On a device I'm working with, we just read a fixed-speed clock
> register in a loop.  It's slower than the CPU register loop, but given
> udelay counts in great big slow _microsecond_ delays (how quaint! ;-)
> that's fine.

We could go to ns delays, but then we have a big problem - the cost of
calculating the number of loops starts to become significant compared to
the delays - and that's a quality of implementation factor.  In fact,
the existing cost has always been significant for short delays for
slower (sub-100MHz) ARMs.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-21  2:19 udelay() broken for SMP cores? Saravana Kannan
2010-04-21  4:56 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-04-21  6:43   ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-21  7:22     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21  9:39       ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2010-04-21  9:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21  9:58           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-04-21 10:00           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:29             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2010-04-21 19:52               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 20:47                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:57                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-22  0:14                       ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-08 23:24                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 10:31           ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2010-04-21 19:33             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 23:47               ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-23  9:00           ` Pavel Machek

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