From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/8] ARM: Implement read/write for ownership in the ARMv6 DMA cache ops
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:59:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100512185903.GD22371@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100512184852.GC22371@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:48:52PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> Aren't there CPUs which speculatively prefetch _and_ which don't have
> broadcast cache ops? If yes, then we can't use the "read/write to
> gain ownership" approach - and since we can't use IPIs either, I think
> we're sadly boxed in by hardware restrictions to the point of not being
> able to run with DMA on these CPUs.
I just had a second thought that what I wrote above was tosh, but then
had a third thought which reconfirmed it as a valid point...
Consider if the CPU speculatively prefetches the line you're going to
read before the DMA has completed, and it prefetches the pre-DMA data.
Your read loads the pre-DMA data, and the write writes it back to the
cache line. An interrupt happens, and the cache line gets evicted some
time later before the invalidate line operation - overwriting the DMA
data, thereby corrupting it.
So, a CPU which speculatively prefetches _and_ doesn't broadcast cache
operations _is_ a big problem. I hope we don't have any.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-12 18:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-04 16:44 [PATCH 0/8] Various patches for comments and upstream Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 1/8] ARM: Improve the L2 cache performance when PL310 is used Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 17:02 ` Jason McMullan
2010-05-05 16:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 2/8] ARM: Implement read/write for ownership in the ARMv6 DMA cache ops Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 17:04 ` Jason McMullan
2010-05-05 16:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-05 13:26 ` George G. Davis
2010-05-06 14:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-06 15:57 ` George G. Davis
2010-05-12 12:51 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-12 13:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-12 15:03 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-12 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-12 18:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2010-05-12 20:00 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-12 20:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-12 20:19 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/8] ARM: Implement read/write for ownership in theARMv6 " Catalin Marinas
2010-05-13 5:27 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-13 8:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-13 13:54 ` George G. Davis
2010-05-13 14:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-13 20:34 ` George G. Davis
2010-05-14 16:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-14 16:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-15 1:26 ` George G. Davis
2010-05-16 6:28 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-16 6:29 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-16 15:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 6:29 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 6:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 7:34 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 7:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 8:29 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 8:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 9:50 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 10:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 11:26 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 11:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-17 11:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 10:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 11:29 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 11:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 12:04 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 13:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 9:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 9:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 9:59 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 11:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 11:27 ` Ronen Shitrit
2010-05-17 11:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-17 13:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] ARM: Implement read/write for ownership intheARMv6 " Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 3/8] ARM: Align machine_desc.phys_io to a 1MB section Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 4/8] ARM: Remove the domain switching on ARMv6k/v7 CPUs Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 5/8] ARM: Fix the __arm_ioremap_caller() definition in nommu.c Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 17:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 6/8] ARM: Implement copy_to_user_page() for noMMU Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 17:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 7/8] ARM: Use the Inner Shareable I-cache and BTB ops on ARMv7 SMP Catalin Marinas
2010-05-28 18:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-28 21:37 ` [PATCH 7/8] ARM: Use the Inner Shareable I-cache and BTB opson " Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:44 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM: Implement phys_mem_access_prot() to avoid attributes aliasing Catalin Marinas
2010-05-04 16:48 ` [PATCH 0/8] Various patches for comments and upstream Catalin Marinas
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