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From: jeremy.kerr@canonical.com (Jeremy Kerr)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Boot interface for device trees on ARM
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:24:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005181324.45701.jeremy.kerr@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005172341200.12758@xanadu.home>

Hi Nicolas,

> I think that, for the moment, it is best if the bootloader on already 
> existing subarchitectures where DT is introduced still preserve the 
> already existing ability to boot using ATAGs.  This allows for the 
> testing and validation of the DT concept against the legacy ATAG method 
> more easily.

Just to clarify - by "still preserve the existing ability to use ATAGs" you 
mean only for non-DT boot, right? This proposal still does not require 
ATAG_DEVTREE?

> Why one DT machine ID per subarchitecture?  Simply because a significant
> part of the DT handling code will have to be subarchitecture specific
> anyway.  The timer hardware, the GPIO configuration and muxing, SOC
> specific platform data handling, power management config, and many other
> things are simply too different from one SOC family to another and
> trying to have a single global DT support code to rule them all is
> insane.

The code for DT boot will be still subarch-specific, but I don't think we need 
IDs for that. There is enough information in the device tree to select the 
subarch-specific code to use for early init, without needing to parameterise 
every element of the machine. The machine-level "compatible" property allows 
us to do this.

Therefore, I don't think we need the machine ID at all: once the DT is 
available, we can use that for any machine-specific stuff. Even though we're 
not *configuring* it from the device tree, we can *select* it from there 
instead.

Cheers,


Jeremy

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18  2:54 Boot interface for device trees on ARM Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18  4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18  5:24   ` Jeremy Kerr [this message]
2010-05-18  8:49     ` David Gibson
2010-05-18 12:24       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18 14:06         ` Jason McMullan
2010-05-19  0:21           ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  0:28         ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  1:28           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19  6:50             ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:45               ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  1:41           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-19  7:12             ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:21             ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  7:25         ` Mitch Bradley
2010-05-19  8:50         ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18 11:57     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 12:13       ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 16:45         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-19 17:10           ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 17:32             ` M. Warner Losh
2010-05-19 11:57   ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 12:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-19 17:52     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 20:08       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-19 20:22         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-21 16:24           ` John Rigby
2010-05-21 16:27             ` Jamie Bennett
2010-05-21 19:59             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 21:12             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:01       ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:33         ` John Rigby
2010-06-04 20:37           ` Jon Loeliger
2010-06-04 21:07             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05  1:33         ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-05  2:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-05  5:59             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-09  4:26             ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-09 13:09               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 11:45 ` Grant Likely

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