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From: jamie@shareable.org (Jamie Lokier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Boot interface for device trees on ARM
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:08:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519200819.GF1693@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191055180.12758@xanadu.home>

Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> It is not up to the bootloader to "adjust" to the kernel.  But rather 
> for the kernel to cope with the bootloader's provided information.  If 
> the bootloader passes a specific machine ID with the ATAG list then the 
> kernel will use that, and if the bootloader passes a DT machine ID with 
> a DT blob then the kernel will use that.  You just have to configure 
> your kernel with both "machine types" at the same time.

Scenario:

You upgrade your systems to a new DT-capable kernel and DT-capable
bootloader.  It works great.  You ship new instances of your device with this.

Once they're in the field, someone reports a bug that doesn't happen
with the older device instances.  It's not a bug you can reproduce,
but you suspect the newer of kernel.  So you remote-update some of the
newly shipped devices with an old, pre-DT kernel binary that's been
stable on the older devices, to see if the bug goes away.

Problem: The newer shipped devices have a DT-capable bootloader, and
it can't boot old kernels, because they don't understand the DT format.

You could remote-downgrade the bootloaders, but that's risky.  You
could try building the old kernel with DT support, but that adds
another variable to your testing.

Anticipating this well in advance, you of course built your DT-capable
bootloader with the ability to boot old and new style kernels...

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18  2:54 Boot interface for device trees on ARM Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18  4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18  5:24   ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18  8:49     ` David Gibson
2010-05-18 12:24       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18 14:06         ` Jason McMullan
2010-05-19  0:21           ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  0:28         ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  1:28           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19  6:50             ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:45               ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  1:41           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-19  7:12             ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:21             ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  7:25         ` Mitch Bradley
2010-05-19  8:50         ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18 11:57     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 12:13       ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 16:45         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-19 17:10           ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 17:32             ` M. Warner Losh
2010-05-19 11:57   ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 12:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-05-19 17:52     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 20:08       ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-05-19 20:22         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-21 16:24           ` John Rigby
2010-05-21 16:27             ` Jamie Bennett
2010-05-21 19:59             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 21:12             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:01       ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:33         ` John Rigby
2010-06-04 20:37           ` Jon Loeliger
2010-06-04 21:07             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05  1:33         ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-05  2:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-05  5:59             ` Grant Likely
2010-06-09  4:26             ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-09 13:09               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-19 11:45 ` Grant Likely

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