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From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Heads up: Linus plans to kill ARM defconfigs
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:31:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100608123102.GT15515@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608115832.GB25370@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

* Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> [100608 14:53]:
> On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:51:24PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > Linus wants something to be done about the current defconfig mess which 
> > is perfectly legitimate.  He even suggested a possible solution.  I 
> > don't think he'll simply drop those defconfig files if we demonstrate 
> > that we're taking action to fix the actual problem.
> 
> However, having a set of patches which combine a load of defconfig
> files into one is not going to solve the problem.
> 
> If you're hypothesis that Linus is only looking at the diffstat, then
> what are patches to combine the defconfigs going to do?  It's going
> to create lots of noise in arch/arm/configs/ - which is precisely what
> Linus is complaining about.  In fact, patch-wise it's going to create
> an extremely large patch.  And if we do this time and time again while
> progressively reducing the defconfigs.  No, this isn't the answer -
> it's only going to make the problem worse.
> 
> I believe the only acceptable solution is to get an alterative method
> in place - no matter what it is - and remove the all but one of the
> defconfig files from the mainline kernel.  _And_, most importantly,
> kautobuild needs to be fixed so that we still get build coverage.
> 
> The loss of kautobuild is a major concern here, and I believe it trumps
> everything else for the next merge window.  Kautobuild is an extremely
> important resource that we simply can not afford to lose.

How about the following strategy for the next merge window:

- Update kautobuild to temporarily host the current defconfigs

- Remove all the arm defconfigs except one

Then over the next few merge cycles:

- Make the ARM platform specific Kconfig or similar option to work

- Drop the old defconfigs from kautobuild once we have the new solution

Then over yet unknown lenght of time:

- Work towards building in more features (TLS/SMP/VFPvX) into the same kernel

- Work towards building in multiple ARM platforms into the same kernel

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-03 19:24 Heads up: Linus plans to kill ARM defconfigs Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 19:55 ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-03 20:01   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 20:27     ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-03 20:38       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 14:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 23:46     ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-04 11:06   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-03 19:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-03 20:03   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 20:36     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-03 21:04 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-03 22:31   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-03 23:33     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-03 23:45       ` Kyungmin Park
2010-06-04  0:13         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04  1:10       ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-04  1:16         ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-04  1:35           ` Eric Miao
2010-06-04  1:37             ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-04  1:50               ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-04  1:53                 ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-04  6:03                   ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04 14:59                     ` Cory Maccarrone
2010-06-07  7:41                       ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  1:57               ` Eric Miao
2010-06-04  6:10             ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  7:12               ` Eric Miao
2010-06-04  8:40                 ` Martin Guy
2010-06-04 20:51                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04 22:08                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-06-08 11:58                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 12:31                       ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2010-06-08 12:43                         ` Eric Miao
2010-06-08 12:49                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 13:00                             ` Eric Miao
2010-06-08 12:43                       ` David John
2010-06-08 12:44                         ` Eric Miao
2010-06-08 12:50                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 12:44                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 12:50                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 13:01                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 13:13                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 14:51                               ` Eric Miao
2010-06-08 16:55                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 23:23                                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-08 12:50                       ` Christer Weinigel
2010-06-08 13:10                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 20:51                           ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-08 21:22                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-08 21:32                               ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-08 23:02                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 23:21                               ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-08 23:26                                 ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-08 23:31                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-08 23:52                                   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-09  0:14                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-09  6:07                                 ` Hendrik Sattler
2010-06-09 13:32                                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-10  6:32                                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 19:18                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-09 21:56                                   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-25 12:36                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-06-07 21:09                   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-04 10:42                 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  8:36         ` pieterg
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTilyIb8WDAanNHlQKHco6rSjzNjNS9Q3TpWQqt8o@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-04  8:42             ` Eric Miao
2010-06-04  8:56           ` Daniel Mack
2010-06-04  9:37             ` pieterg

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