From: u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (Uwe Kleine-König)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 4/5] [ARM] Auto calculate ZRELADDR and provide option for exceptions
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:43:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100610094310.GG3422@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilOaHD12oxQZNaWJzKw1gcoT-1LTzpEtULUSLU4@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:38:27PM +0800, Eric Miao wrote:
> 2010/6/10 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:00:15AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
> >> What do you think about requiring r4 to be set to physoffset as I did in
> >> my series? ?This way zImage would already know PHYSOFFSET and so didn't
> >> need to guess ZRELADDR. ?OK, until most bootloaders are fixed we need
> >> to guess, too. ?But at least this would provide a way to stop guessing
> >> wrong for the affected platforms.
> >
> > That means it won't get implemented. ?Look at the facts. ?It's taken
> > _years_ (5+ years) for boot loaders to start passing a value in r1.
> > We then switched to the ATAG stuff, and it's again taking years for
> > boot loaders to start passing right ATAG stuff - and most of them don't
> > get it right. ?Eg, lots of uboot are happy to print out the memory
> > information on the terminal as they start up, but don't pass memory
> > information to the kernel.
> >
> > So if we want phys offset in r4, we better realise that it'll take
> > something like five years of nagging to get it in place, and even then
> > people will continue to use boot loaders which don't have support.
> > And if it's only necessary for a handful of platforms, I doubt anyone's
> > really going to bother - or even validate that r4 is correct.
> >
> > You have a whole set of other problems - how do you cope with existing
> > boot loaders which happen to call the kernel with a value in r4 which
> > _could_ potentially be valid, but should not be used? ?At the moment,
> > r4 could contain _any_ value what so ever.
> >
> > Let's face it - advertising that "the kernel will eventually start using
> > r4" doesn't solve the problem either - we did that with the ATAG list
> > and we know the results from that.
> >
> > Maybe the right experiment to try this time - if we want r4 to contain
> > a value - is to say that kernel 2.6.37 will require a value in r4, and
> > won't boot without it, and will therefore be incompatible with old
> > boot loaders.
> >
>
> It might be difficult to guess if it's a correct value in r4 and we might
> not need it. We know which boards can be compiled together and
> the phys_offset can be guessed and we make a single kernel for them,
> otherwise we end up building a specific kernel. Although my observation
> is that most platforms can guess phys_offset automatically, but due to
> the fact there are so many ARM variants out there, and each is doing
> things differently, what we can do now is to provide both choices.
>
> And you reminded me that it might be better if we can make RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
> depends on the architecture this is test-proofed, so when the day that
>
> RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
> depends on {ALL_ARCH}
I would prefer
config HAVE_RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
bool
config RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
depens on HAVE_RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
config ARCH_FOO
select HAVE_RUNTIME_PHYS_OFFSET
for the usual reasons.
Best regards
Uwe
--
Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-K?nig |
Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ |
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2010-06-03 7:36 [PATCH 0/5] Makefile.boot cleanup Eric Miao
2010-06-03 7:36 ` [PATCH 1/5] [ARM] Remove unused PARAMS_PHYS from arch/arm/boot/compressed Eric Miao
2010-06-10 8:48 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-03 7:36 ` [PATCH 2/5] [ARM] Remove unused INITRD_PHYS " Eric Miao
2010-06-10 8:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 9:55 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-03 7:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] [ARM] Make TEXT_OFFSET a configurable option Eric Miao
2010-06-10 8:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 9:45 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:00 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-03 7:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] [ARM] Auto calculate ZRELADDR and provide option for exceptions Eric Miao
2010-06-07 8:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-07 15:12 ` Marek Vasut
2010-06-08 6:12 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 9:00 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-10 9:35 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 9:38 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 9:43 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2010-06-10 9:47 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 9:18 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 9:58 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:20 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 22:06 ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-10 22:23 ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-11 1:34 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 18:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-10 22:17 ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-11 6:37 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 19:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-11 4:27 ` srinidhi
2010-09-02 21:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-02 21:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-03 7:48 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 9:55 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 1/7] ARM: specify ZRELADDR for ARCH_TEGRA Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 17:46 ` Erik Gilling
2010-09-03 19:01 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 19:19 ` Erik Gilling
2010-09-03 19:23 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-08 9:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-08 11:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-08 12:16 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-08 22:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-09 7:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-09 16:56 ` Erik Gilling
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 2/7] [RFC] ARM: shmobile: remove unneeded hack to calculate zreladdr Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 13:39 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-03 18:53 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-14 8:08 ` Paul Mundt
2010-09-14 12:23 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 3/7] ARM: specify ZRELADDR for ARCH_H720X Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 13:40 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 4/7] ARM: specify ZRELADDR for ARCH_LPC32XX Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 13:41 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 5/7] ARM: don't expose CONFIG_ZRELADDR to the users Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 13:30 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-03 18:53 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-04 8:52 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-07 22:39 ` Mathieu Rondonneau
2010-09-08 5:04 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 6/7] ARM: fix ordering of defaults for config ZRELADDR Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 9:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] ARM: removed unused zreladdr specifications in all Makefile.boot files Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 15:01 ` Eric Miao
2010-09-03 18:48 ` [PATCH 7/7 v2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-03 20:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] [ARM] Auto calculate ZRELADDR and provide option for exceptions Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-05 18:52 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-09-08 9:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-08 9:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-08 20:31 ` Robert Schwebel
2010-09-03 13:33 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-03 7:36 ` [PATCH 5/5] [ARM] Move inclusion of Makefile.boot into arch/arm/boot/bootp Eric Miao
2010-06-10 9:01 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-03 7:43 ` [PATCH 0/5] Makefile.boot cleanup Eric Miao
2010-06-03 8:00 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-03 8:27 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-03 7:57 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 18:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-11 4:55 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 19:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-18 1:31 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-18 2:30 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:24 ` [PATCH 0/10] cleanup in early boot code Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 01/10] arm/zImage: don't hard code the stack size twice Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:31 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 18:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 02/10] arm/zImage: some comments for __armv3_mpu_cache_on Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 21:36 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-06-16 3:16 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-16 9:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 03/10] arm/zImage: __armv3_mpu_cache_flush: respect should-be-zero specification Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-11 1:23 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 04/10] arm/zImage: fix comments for cache_on, cache_off and cache_clean_flush Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 9:28 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 05/10] arm/zImage: annotate debug functions about corrupted registers Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 9:37 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-17 9:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 06/10] arm: remove bit-rotten STANDALONE_DEBUG for decompressor Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 9:50 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 07/10] arm/zImage: don't define unused symbol initrd_phys Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 9:19 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 08/10] arm: deprecate support for old way to pass kernel parameters Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-17 9:58 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-17 23:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 09/10] arm/uImage: require passing a LOADADDR when building with RUNTIME_PHYSOFFSET Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm: Allow PHYS_OFFSET to be runtime determined Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-10 10:28 ` [PATCH 0/10] cleanup in early boot code Eric Miao
2010-07-05 14:13 ` [PATCH 0/5] Makefile.boot cleanup Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 01/11] ARM: zImage: don't hard code the stack size twice Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 02/11] ARM: zImage: some comments for __armv3_mpu_cache_on Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 03/11] ARM: zImage: __armv3_mpu_cache_flush: respect should-be-zero specification Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 04/11] ARM: zImage: fix comments for cache_on, cache_off and cache_clean_flush Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 05/11] ARM: zImage: annotate debug functions about corrupted registers Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 06/11] ARM: remove bit-rotten STANDALONE_DEBUG for decompressor Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 15:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 07/11] ARM: zImage: don't define unused symbol initrd_phys Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 08/11] ARM: deprecate support for old way to pass kernel parameters Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 09/11] ARM: uImage: require passing a LOADADDR when building with RUNTIME_PHYSOFFSET Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 16:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 10/11] ARM: Remove unused PARAMS_PHYS from arch/arm/boot/compressed Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 14:15 ` [PATCH 11/11] Auto calculate ZRELADDR and provide option for exceptions Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-05 15:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 2:09 ` Eric Miao
2010-07-31 15:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-31 17:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-08-02 8:42 ` [PATCH] ARM: don't expose CONFIG_ZRELADDR to the users Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-07 14:45 ` [PATCH 0/5] Makefile.boot cleanup Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-07 15:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-08 7:08 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-08 20:49 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-10 9:16 ` Eric Miao
2010-07-21 8:20 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-29 16:17 ` Git pull request, was " Nicolas Pitre
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