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From: u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (Uwe Kleine-König)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:41:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100624064127.GA23539@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C225CB2.6090407@bluewatersys.com>

Hello,

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 07:12:50AM +1200, Ryan Mallon wrote:
> David Brownell wrote:
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com>
> >> wrote:
> 
> >>>> 'Can sleep' for a gpio has two different meanings
> >> depending
> >>>> on context
> >>> NO; for the GPIO itself it's only ever had one
> >>> meaning, regardless of context.
> >>>
> >>> You're trying to conflate the GPIO and one
> >>> of the contexts in which it's used.  That's
> >>> the problem you seem to be struggling with.
> >>>
> >>> Please stop conflating/confusing
> >>> those two disparate concepts...
> >> I'm not. 
> > 
> > BUT Your "counter" example below is solid
> > proof that you are:  it shows exactly the
> > confusion I pointed out:  call context versus
> > the GPIO itself.  There's no way I can read
> > that as anything except "you are"...
> > 
> >  
> > Your intent here seems perhaps more to
> > be a troll than to address any real
> > technical issues.  I don't see much
> > point participating any further.
> > 
> > 
> >  Some gpios, such as those on io expanders, may
> >> sleep in their
> >> implementations of the gpio_(set/get) functions.
> >>
> > 
> > Such GPIOs have a "cansleep" attribute, in short.
> > 
> > 
> >> Drivers, which use a gpio, may call gpio_(set/get)
> >> functions for a given
> >> gpio from a context where it is not safe to sleep.
> > 
> > And that's the call dontext
> > (in this case, from a driver).
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >   QED.  You are confusing two disparate concepts.
> 
> We are saying exactly the same thing.
> 
> > 
> >  In this
> >> case, a gpio
> >> which may sleep (ie one on an i2c io-expander) cannot be
> >> used with this
> >> driver. The gpio_request will succeed, but any call to
> >> gpio_(set/get)_value will produce a warning.
> >>
> >>>> example, if a driver calls gpio_get_value(gpio)
> >> from an
> >>>> interupt handler
> > 
> > 
> > (YOU introduce interrupt/IRQ handlers...)
> > 
> >>>> then the gpio must not be a sleeping gpio.
> >>> In a threaded IRQ handler it's OK to use
> >>> the get_value_cansleep() option..
> >> Ugh, you are really twisting my words.
> > 
> > 
> > You said IRQ handler, so did I.  In what csense could I
> > possibly be "twisting" your words"???
> > 
> > 
> > STOP TROLLING.
> 
> Okay, I messed up the wording an used 'interrupt handler' as an example
> of a non-sleep safe context. If I had said 'atomic' or 'spinlock'
> context you would probably be telling me off for missing some other
> non-sleep safe contexts.
> 
> The point is that we are discussing the issue of calls which may sleep.
> Even if I was not entirely clear by getting the wording wrong, you _do_
> know what I am talking about. You could correct on the bits on I get
> wrong instead of labeling me a troll.
> 
> If we strip my patch back to just introducing gpio_request_cansleep,
> which would be used in any driver where all of the calls are
> gpio_(set/get)_cansleep, and make gpio_request only allow non-sleeping
> gpios then incorrect use of gpios would be caught at request time and
> returned to the caller as an error.
I'm not sure that changing the API in this way is sensible.  I'd do
either what Jani Nikula suggested (i.e. substitute some WARN_ON(extra_checks
&& chip->can_sleep); by might_sleep_if(chip->can_sleep);) or
alternatively let gpio_get_value et al. return < 0 if they are called in
atomic context with chip->can_sleep != 0.  Maybe even return < 0
independant of the current context?

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-K?nig            |
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-24  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-17 21:47 gpiolib and sleeping gpios Ryan Mallon
2010-06-18  5:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-18  6:16 ` David Brownell
2010-06-18 22:01   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-19  6:21     ` David Brownell
2010-06-20 21:31       ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-21  2:40         ` David Brownell
2010-06-21  5:09           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-23  1:59             ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  4:37               ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  4:58                 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  9:51                   ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  5:02                 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  5:26                   ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  9:39                   ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 19:12                     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24  4:46                       ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-24  8:20                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24  8:29                         ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-24 10:31                           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24  6:41                       ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2010-06-23 22:53                   ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Jamie Lokier
2010-06-23 23:06                     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24  0:04                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-24  0:10                         ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-25  7:19                           ` David Brownell
2010-06-24  4:33                         ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-29  8:29         ` gpiolib and sleeping gpios CoffBeta
2010-06-23 11:53       ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 12:40         ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 13:22           ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 13:39             ` David Brownell

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