From: horms@verge.net.au (Simon Horman)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:32:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722023250.GC27663@verge.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100721084726.GC6009@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 09:47:26AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:29:29AM +0200, David Jander wrote:
> > General machine initialization like I/O-multiplexing and I/O-pad setup seems
> > to be done twice most of the time: Once in the bootloader (i.e. u-boot), and
> > once in the machine support file in the linux kernel. This seems awfully
> > redundant and error-prone to me. Why is it like this?
>
> I answer your question only once - rather than the number of times you've
> asked it in this email.
>
> We do IO mux setup in the kernel for two reasons:
>
> 1. we don't trust boot loaders to do the right thing, especially when we
> have a plethora of boot loaders - or even no boot loader - to deal with.
>
> 2. on some platforms and SoCs, it's necessary to change the IO mux setup
> at runtime.
>
> > What about fixing bootloaders then?
>
> Forget fixing boot loaders; that's a total and utter lost cause. Boot
> loaders generally don't seem to even be capable of passing a block of
> information correctly to the kernel, or even getting one simple value
> in a register correct.
>
> Boot loaders really can't be trusted, and the less we rely upon them,
> the better.
Would it be feasible to use Linux + kexec as the boot loader as
a long term solution to fixing boot loaders by eliminating them?
I believe Magnus Damn (CCed) amongst others have done work
in this area, though I'm not sure that it was on ARM.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-22 2:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-21 8:29 ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code David Jander
2010-07-21 8:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 2:32 ` Simon Horman [this message]
2010-07-22 7:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 7:29 ` Simon Horman
2010-07-22 8:38 ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22 8:49 ` Eric Miao
2010-07-22 9:01 ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22 9:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 8:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 9:14 ` Simon Horman
2010-07-24 21:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-07-22 8:16 ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22 12:10 ` David Jander
2010-07-22 12:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 12:56 ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 13:31 ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 10:35 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 13:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 14:20 ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 10:18 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 12:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 14:17 ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 18:38 ` david at protonic.nl
2010-07-23 19:59 ` Jason McMullan
2010-07-23 21:03 ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-26 1:37 ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-26 6:56 ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-24 18:50 ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 15:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-23 10:31 ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:41 ` Rob Herring
2010-07-22 21:20 ` Linus Walleij
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