From: gregkh@suse.de (Greg KH)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] USB-serial dummy cable driver
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:37:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100803183755.GA5281@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008032021.07504.marek.vasut@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:21:07PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dne ?t 3. srpna 2010 19:49:12 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 07:36:39PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > Dne ?t 3. srpna 2010 18:38:26 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > > > On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 06:14:15PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > > Dne ?t 3. srpna 2010 00:47:18 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:00:07AM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > > > > This driver is used to implement USB-serial like behaviour over
> > > > > > > dummy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > USB cables. These are used in the following devices:
> > > > > > > Funsoft Serial USB driver
> > > > > > > Genesys Logic GL620USB USB Laplink cable
> > > > > > > HP4x (48/49) Serial cable
> > > > > > > Motorola phones
> > > > > > > Siemens USB-MPI Serial USB driver
> > > > > > > ViVOpay USB Serial Driver
> > > > > > > ZIO Motherboard USB driver
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like the idea, but not the name :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't expect miracles from me after 26 hours without sleep ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ideally, all of these would be able to be handled by the usb-serial
> > > > > > generic driver directly.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just noticed that one. Stupid me.
> > > > >
> > > > > > But really, having these multiple drivers is a good thing, they
> > > > > > properly convey to the user what the device is, and it gives these
> > > > > > developers and companies a sense of ownership over the code, and
> > > > > > that matters at times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you lost the names of the devices with this patch, which isn't
> > > > > > good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheesh ... that's true, but having pile of copies of the same code is
> > > > > not good either.
> > > >
> > > > I agree, that's why I said it should be reduced.
> > > >
> > > > > Can't we then just deprecate all these drivers and set correct udev
> > > > > rules?
> > > >
> > > > udev can not change the name of the device in sysfs, or the name in the
> > > > kernel of the device.
> > >
> > > That's right, but it can bind the generic driver with the hardware. And
> > > who would care about the driver name, really ? The interface just
> > > appears and that's what matters (to me and probably to users) ...
> >
> > There are persistant device links in /dev/serial/ that might care about
> > the driver name. We don't want to break them, right?
>
> We can start a slow migration though. Eg. push the serial-generic as a way-to-go
> so the distro teams can pick this change and incorporate it into their stuff.
>
> Maybe just mark all those drivers as "DEPRECATED" and add a note there "use
> generic-serial".
{sigh}
No, the goal is to provide a way for the generic driver to be able to
specify a "name" so that you don't have to worry about ever breaking
userspace like this.
thanks,
greg k-h
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-03 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-02 6:00 [PATCH] USB-serial dummy cable driver Marek Vasut
2010-08-02 22:47 ` Greg KH
2010-08-03 16:14 ` Marek Vasut
2010-08-03 16:38 ` Greg KH
2010-08-03 17:36 ` Marek Vasut
2010-08-03 17:49 ` Greg KH
2010-08-03 18:21 ` Marek Vasut
2010-08-03 18:37 ` Greg KH [this message]
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