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From: u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (Uwe Kleine-König)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Locking in the clk API
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:31:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110115163155.GF6917@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110115162121.GI15996@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 04:21:21PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 05:03:29PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 03:15:07PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > No - I've been suggesting for about a week now about doing two entirely
> > > separate consolidations.
> > I didn't read that out of your mails.
> 
> It was actually four days ago:
> | Maybe another approach for the time being is to unify in two steps: first
> | unify the implementations which use a spinlock - and those which can use
> | a spinlock, and separately those which must use a mutex.
> | 
> | Then this issue can be revisited in the future.
> 
> > > I think it would be insane to do the consolidation of the two different
> > > implementations in one patch or even one patch set.  There needs to be
> > > a consolidation of spinlock-based clks as one patch set, which is
> > > entirely separate and independent from the consolidation of mutex-based
> > > clks.
> > I think they should share most of the code.  Apart from calling
> > different locking functions they should be pretty much identical, no?
> 
> That way you get unions of mutexes and spinlocks (which is one thing
> we're trying to avoid) and conditionals controlling whether a mutex
> or spinlock is taken - which we've already ascertained was strongly
> objected to by folk in mainline (and quite rightfully so IMHO.)
If the decision is done basing on a Kconfig symbol it's an #ifdef.
That's not great but IMHO much better than a runtime decision.
 
> > > What if one of the consolidations turns out to be a problem?  Do we want
> > > to throw both out, or do we want to keep as much as we possibly can?
> > Do you really expect fundamental problems that make it necessary to
> > switch all platforms that use the (say) sleeping variant back to their
> > original implementation?  I don't think that when the general idea of
> > using clk_ops prooves for the atomic case it cannot happen that a
> > "native" implementation for a sleeping clk is better that a sleeping
> > clk_ops implementation.
> 
> I'm saying keep all the options open until we've got the whole thing
> sorted out.  If you think it's possible to do without creating a mess
> in the process - and without unions of mutexes and spinlocks or
> conditionals controlling whether we use mutex_lock vs spin_lock then
> please show the patches.

Jeremy: I think it would be quite easy to convert your series to use an
#ifdef instead of the flag.  I don't want to do this (at least not
without asking first) because it's your series, not mine.  How should we
proceed?

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-K?nig            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-15 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-11  2:16 Locking in the clk API Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  3:15 ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:11   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:54     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:32       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  3:43           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:03     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:28       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 14:34         ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-20 16:29   ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:56     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 21:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21  2:06         ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  4:12           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:53               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:24                 ` Colin Cross
2011-01-22  2:56                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  9:15                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 19:31                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21 21:03             ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:53               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:02                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:28                   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 23:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-22  1:35                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:22                       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:29                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:28                 ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-11  9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:44   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:13     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:30       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 12:18         ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 13:52           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 14:35           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-12  3:25             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  7:40               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-12  1:54           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:25             ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:57               ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-11 10:39     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 10:47       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:56         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 11:15       ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-20 17:02         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 19:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  0:09             ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  9:39                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 10:11                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  4:08                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  5:30                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  7:16             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:47                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  4:34                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  8:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:30                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:43                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:07                         ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:11                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  3:29                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-11 12:11   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-12  2:56   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  9:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:02       ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:53         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:03           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 15:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:03               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 16:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:31                   ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2011-01-16  6:59               ` Grant Likely
2011-01-15 17:07           ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:44               ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 20:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17  1:19 ` Jeremy Kerr

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