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From: rjw@sisk.pl (Rafael J. Wysocki)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] PM: Allow pm_runtime_suspend() to succeed during system suspend
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:00:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102120100.49255.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87aai26sq4.fsf@ti.com>

On Saturday, February 12, 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
> 
> > On Friday, February 11, 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Monday, January 31, 2011, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> >> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
> >> >> > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > I understand how this works, but frankly I'm still a bit fuzzy on why.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > I guess I'm still missing a good understanding of what "interfering with a
> >> >> > > system power transition" means, and why a runtime suspend qualifies as
> >> >> > > interfering but not a runtime resume.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > These are good questions.  Rafael implemented this design originally; 
> >> >> > my contribution was only to warn him of the potential for problems.  
> >> >> > Therefore he should explain the rationale for the design.
> >> >> 
> >> >> The reason why runtime resume is allowed during system power transitions is
> >> >> because in some cases during system suspend we simply have to resume devices
> >> >> that were previously runtime-suspended (for example, the PCI bus type does
> >> >> that).
> >> >> 
> >> >> The reason why runtime suspend is not allowed during system power transitions
> >> >> if the following race:
> >> >> 
> >> >> - A device has been suspended via a system suspend callback.
> >> >> - The runtime PM framework executes a (scheduled) suspend on that device,
> >> >>   not knowing that it's already been suspended, which potentially results in
> >> >>   accessing the device's registers in a low-power state.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Now, it can be avoided if every driver does the right thing and checks whether
> >> >> the device is already suspended in its runtime suspend callback, but that would
> >> >> kind of defeat the purpose of the runtime PM framework, at least partially.
> >> >
> >> > In fact, I've just realized that the above race cannot really occur, because
> >> > pm_wq is freezable, so I'm proposing the following change.
> >> >
> >> > Of course, it still doesn't prevent user space from disabling the runtime PM
> >> > framework's helpers via /sys/devices/.../power/control.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Rafael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> >> > Subject: PM: Allow pm_runtime_suspend() to succeed during system suspend
> >> >
> >> > The dpm_prepare() function increments the runtime PM reference
> >> > counters of all devices to prevent pm_runtime_suspend() from
> >> > executing subsystem-level callbacks.  However, this was supposed to
> >> > guard against a specific race condition that cannot happen, because
> >> > the power management workqueue is freezable, so pm_runtime_suspend()
> >> > can only be called synchronously during system suspend and we can
> >> > rely on subsystems and device drivers to avoid doing that
> >> > unnecessarily.
> >> >
> >> > Make dpm_prepare() drop the runtime PM reference to each device
> >> > after making sure that runtime resume is not pending for it.
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> >> > ---
> >> 
> >> Yes!
> >> 
> >> Acked-by: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
> >
> > Well, I hope you realize that it doesn't help you a lot?
> >
> 
> If you mean that because we still have to implement system PM methods
> because of /sys/devices/.../power/control, I agree.

Yes, I meant that.
 
> If something else, please explain.
>
> But to me it is still very helpful in terms of consistency and what
> driver writers would expect to happen if they used pm_runtime_suspend()
> in their system suspend method.

OK

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-28  0:18 [PATCH] i2c: OMAP: fix static suspend vs. runtime suspend Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 11:28 ` Rajendra Nayak
2011-01-31 15:13   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2011-01-31 15:28     ` Rajendra Nayak
2011-01-31 16:09     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-31 16:22       ` Alan Stern
2011-01-31 18:19         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-11 20:00           ` [PATCH] PM: Allow pm_runtime_suspend() to succeed during system suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-11 20:36             ` Alan Stern
2011-02-11 20:38             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-11 21:25               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-11 23:45                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-12  0:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-02-05 16:08 ` [PATCH] i2c: OMAP: fix static suspend vs. runtime suspend Ben Dooks
2011-02-08 18:31   ` Kevin Hilman

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