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From: joro@8bytes.org (Joerg Roedel)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:41:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110428104143.GB13402@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110427073514.GH17290@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 08:35:14AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:29:16PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> dma_map_ops design is broken - we can't have the entire DMA API indirected
> through that structure.  Whether you have an IOMMU or not is completely
> independent of whether you have to do DMA cache handling.  Moreover, with
> dmabounce, having the DMA cache handling in place doesn't make sense.
> 
> So you can't have a dma_map_ops for the cache handling bits, a dma_map_ops
> for IOMMU, and a dma_map_ops for the dmabounce stuff.  It just doesn't
> work like that.

Nobody says that the complete feature-set of the dma_ops needs to be
provided through the IOMMU-API. The different APIs are there to solve
different problems:

The IOMMU-API provides low-level access to IOMMU hardware and to map io
addresses to physical addresses (which can be chosen by the caller). The
IOMMU-API does not care about address space layout or cache management.

The DMA-API cares about address management. Every dma_ops implementation
using an IOMMU has an address allocator for io addresses implemented.
the DMA-API also cares about cache-management.

So if we can abstract the different IOMMUs on all architectures in the
IOMMU-API I see no reason why we can't have a common dma_ops
implementation. The dma-buffer ownership management (cpu<->device) can
be put into archtectural call-backs so that architectures that need it
just implement them and everything should work.

Or I am too naive to believe that (which is possible because of my
limited ARM knowledge). In this case please correct me :)

Regards,

	Joerg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-28 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52   ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-22  0:34     ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27  7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  8:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  9:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16         ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44           ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56                       ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  6:40     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:46       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  9:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37                   ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29  0:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  5:50                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  7:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30  2:45                               ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29  7:59                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02  4:42                                 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19                       ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37                       ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29  0:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41   ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2011-04-28 11:01     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  0:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28  8:27         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45             ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-03 15:05     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  7:24     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  8:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:42   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann

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