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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:51:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110428105131.GD17290@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003e01cc058f$94beb490$be3c1db0$%szyprowski@samsung.com>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:32:32PM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:38 AM Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > > 2. Implement dma_alloc_noncoherent on ARM. Marek pointed out
> > > > >    that this is needed, and it currently is not implemented, with
> > > > >    an outdated comment explaining why it used to not be possible
> > > > >    to do it.
> > > >
> > > > dma_alloc_noncoherent is an entirely pointless API afaics.
> > >
> > > I was about to ask what the point is ... (what is the expected
> > > semantic ? Memory that is reachable but not necessarily cache
> > > coherent ?)
> > 
> > As far as I can see, dma_alloc_noncoherent() should just be a wrapper
> > around the normal page allocation function.  I don't see it ever needing
> > to do anything special - and the advantage of just being the normal
> > page allocation function is that its properties are well known and
> > architecture independent.
> 
> If there is IOMMU chip that supports pages larger than 4KiB then
> dma_alloc_noncoherent() might try to allocate such larger pages what will
> result in faster access to the buffer (lower iommu tlb miss ratio).
> For large buffers even 64KiB 'pages' gives a significant performance
> improvement.

The memory allocated by dma_alloc_noncoherent() (and dma_alloc_coherent())
has to be virtually contiguous, and DMA contiguous.  It is assumed by all
drivers that:

	virt = dma_alloc_foo(size, &dma);

	cpuaddr = virt + offset;
	dmaaddr = dma + offset;

results in the CPU and DMA seeing ultimately the same address for cpuaddr
and dmaaddr for 0 <= offset < size.

The standard alloc_pages() also ensures that if you ask for an order-N
page, you'll end up with that allocation being contiguous - so there's
no difference there.

What I'd suggest is that dma_alloc_noncoherent() should be architecture
independent, and should call into whatever iommu support the device has
to setup an approprite iommu mapping.  IOW, I don't see any need for
every architecture to provide its own dma_alloc_noncoherent() allocation
function - or indeed every iommu implementation to deal with the
allocation issues either.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-28 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52   ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-22  0:34     ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27  7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  8:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  9:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16         ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44           ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56                       ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  6:40     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:46       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  9:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51         ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-04-28 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37                   ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29  0:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  5:50                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  7:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30  2:45                               ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29  7:59                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02  4:42                                 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19                       ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37                       ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29  0:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 11:01     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  0:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28  8:27         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45             ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-03 15:05     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  7:24     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  8:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:42   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-03 14:35 [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart

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