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From: mingo@elte.hu (Ingo Molnar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 09:05:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110514070542.GA9307@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305300443.2466.77.camel@twins>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 16:57 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > this is a security mechanism
> 
> Who says? [...]

Kernel developers/maintainers of the affected code.

We have security hooks all around the kernel, which can deny/accept execution 
at various key points, but we do not have 'execute arbitrary user-space defined 
(safe) scripts' callbacks in general.

But yes, if a particular callback point is defined widely enough to allow much 
bigger intervention into the flow of execution, then more is possible as well.

> [...] and why would you want to unify two separate concepts only to them 
> limit it to security that just doesn't make sense.

I don't limit them to security - the callbacks themselves are either for 
passive observation or, at most, for security accept/deny callbacks.

It's decided by the subsystem maintainers what kind of user-space control power 
(or observation power) they want to allow, not me.

I would just like to not stop the facility itself at the 'observe only' level, 
like you suggest.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-14  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1304017638.18763.205.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
2011-05-12  3:02 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Will Drewry
2011-05-12  7:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12  9:24     ` Kees Cook
2011-05-12 10:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 11:44     ` James Morris
2011-05-12 13:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 16:26         ` Will Drewry
2011-05-16 12:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 14:42             ` Will Drewry
2011-05-13  0:18         ` James Morris
2011-05-13 12:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:26               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 13:18                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 14:57                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 15:27                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-14  7:05                                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-16 16:23                               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-16 16:52                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 17:03                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 12:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 13:05                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 13:19                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-19  4:07                                           ` Will Drewry
2011-05-19 12:22                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-19 21:05                                               ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 15:59                                                 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 16:20                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-24 16:25                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-24 19:00                                                       ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 19:54                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:10                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:35                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-25 15:01                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 17:43                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-29 20:17                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 17:48                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-26  8:43                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26  9:15                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:08                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:14                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-13 15:17                           ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 15:29                             ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system callfiltering David Laight
2011-05-16 12:03                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:49                   ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 15:02                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 15:10             ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 15:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 15:55                 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 16:29                   ` Will Drewry
2011-05-14  7:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-14 20:57                 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-16 12:43                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 15:29                     ` Will Drewry
2011-05-17 12:57                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16  0:36             ` James Morris
2011-05-16 15:08               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17  2:24                 ` James Morris
2011-05-17 13:10                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 13:29                     ` James Morris
2011-05-17 18:34                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26  6:27               ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26  8:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 12:15     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 11:33   ` James Morris
2011-05-13 19:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-14 20:58     ` Will Drewry
2011-05-15  6:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-16 12:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 15:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-16 15:28     ` Will Drewry

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