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From: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au (David Gibson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:40:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110621014059.GN16214@yookeroo.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110612112219.GD16318@ibawizard.net>

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 01:22:19PM +0200, Petr ?tetiar wrote:
> Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@freescale.com> [2011-06-12 16:34:15]:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 09:15:41AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > 
> > > One thing which has been bugging me for some time is that the DT stuff
> > > completely overrides the ATAGs.  This is wrong with solutions like this.
> > > 
> > > We have a set of perfectly good boot loaders which provide correct
> > > information to the kernel via ATAGs.  If we start moving everything
> > > over to DT, then we run into a problem because the ATAGs are ignored -
> > > stuff such as the RAM size and command line passed from the boot loader
> > > will be entirely ignored, instead these having to be encoded into the
> > > kernel at build time.
> > > 
> > What u-boot does right now is replacing the parameters in dtb with
> > its for those it's interested in, for example command line is one,
> > before it passes dtb to kernel.
> 
> If I understand it all correctly, there must be some 'legacy bootloader
> support' added to the kernel, layer which would convert the ATAGs to the DT.
> Or something like that.

More likely combine the ATAGs information with a skeleton DT, but yes,
you probably want something like this.  On powerpc, this role is
usually taken by the zImage wrapper code, sitting between the platform
firmware and the kernel proper.  However, there's no inherent reason
it couldn't be early code in the vmlinux instead.  Just as long as
there is a well defined point after which the DT information is
authoritative.

> Please note, that there are some boards out there, which use some kind of
> proprietary bootloaders, so you can't update or change them easily. You either
> don't have source code, you're limited by the available space (2KB eeprom) so
> you can't add much more things into that bootloader or you're limited by the
> size of the MBR (yes, even such bootloaders exists).

Right.  Sams situation on powerpc - and indeed there are lots of
crappy proprietary bootloaders each with their own whacky way of
conveying the scraps of information they give you.  For this reason we
have a variety of platform-specific bootwrappers which handle these
bootloaders, transforming their information into DT form for the
kernel proper to consume.

No reason you can't do the same thing on ARM, whether the glue
wrappers are wrappers as such, or special early pieces of kernel code.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-21  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-12  6:06 [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12  6:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: zImage: ensure it is always a multiple of 64 bits in size Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 10:43   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-13 11:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 14:06     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12  6:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: zImage: Allow the appending of a device tree binary Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 15:01   ` Grant Likely
2011-06-13 10:46   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-13 11:26     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 14:08       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12  6:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: zImage: make sure appended DTB doesn't get overwritten by kernel .bss Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 10:47   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-12  8:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12  8:34   ` Shawn Guo
2011-06-12  9:21     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12  9:38       ` Shawn Guo
2011-06-12  9:52         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 10:42           ` Shawn Guo
2011-06-12 10:40             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 23:04               ` David Brown
2011-06-13 23:13                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14  7:09                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 11:25                     ` Shawn Guo
2011-06-14 14:53                     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-14 17:28                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 20:32                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 21:21                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 21:42                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 22:06                               ` Grant Likely
2011-06-15  8:08                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-14 22:32                           ` Rob Herring
2011-06-14 23:50                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-15  2:09                               ` Rob Herring
2011-06-15  2:21                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 21:38                     ` David Brown
2011-06-14 23:27                     ` [PATCH] Support multiple MEM tags with atags->fdt conversion David Brown
2011-06-15 19:50                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-15 20:15                         ` David Brown
2011-06-15 20:20                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-16  1:43                         ` David Gibson
2011-06-20  4:03                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20  4:53                             ` David Gibson
2011-06-17 20:23                         ` David Brown
2011-06-12 11:22     ` [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Petr Štetiar
2011-06-12 11:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 14:15         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-12 14:34           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 15:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-12 15:35               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 15:45                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 20:24                 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-13 22:05                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 23:33                     ` Grant Likely
2011-06-12 14:57           ` Grant Likely
2011-06-12 15:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 15:47               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 15:59                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 18:59                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13  9:51                     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-13 14:14                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 14:20                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 15:02                           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-13 15:14                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 15:17                             ` Grant Likely
2011-06-12 19:26                   ` Warner Losh
2011-06-13  9:59                   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-12 15:41         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14  0:13           ` David Brown
2011-09-06 11:23             ` Linus Walleij
2011-06-21  1:40       ` David Gibson [this message]
2011-06-13  4:31 ` Grant Likely
2011-06-13 20:44   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-09-05 15:43     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-09-05 19:32       ` Nicolas Pitre

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