From: dave.martin@linaro.org (Dave Martin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM processor mode, kernel startup, Hyp / secure state
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:24:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110824092407.GA2078@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110823221800.GA21084@e102144-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:18:00PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Dave,
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:50:19PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > > At first I thought that the best thing to do would be to boot the
> > > kernel in any suitable mode, and have the kernel automatically detect
> > > the starting mode. ?I started writing code in linux's head.S to do
> > > this. ?However, detecting whether we are in secure state is very
> > > difficult: it involves deliberately risking an undefined instruction
> > > trap. ?The code for this was getting rather long and involved.
> >
> > There may be a safe way to do this check -- for example, on ARM1176
> > and Cortex-A8 there is a CP14 debug status/control register that you can
> > read which includes a flag indicating which world you're in. This isn't part
> > of the architecture though and may be different/not possible on some
> > CPUs.
>
> Please don't do this! Accessing the debug registers via the CP14 registers
> is like playing russian roulette with a machine gun, especially when you
> have various hypervisor registers and hardware lock registers to contend
> with. For 3.2, I will be guarding all of the hw_breakpoint init debug
> probing with an undef_hook because I'm sick of blowing my head off when
> systems are configured to keep debug out.
Heh -- I didn't think it was quite that scary, but point taken.
> > All in all, it's better to engineer things so that the check doesn't need to
> > be done at all
>
> Agreed. I think it's better to assume that you can't detect whether you're
> running in secure state or not.
>
> Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-24 9:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-23 14:52 ARM processor mode, kernel startup, Hyp / secure state Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 15:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 16:50 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 17:51 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 19:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <CANM98qLC2mLvXZwqurZvn-8VBR_KyQdK3Q=icU3k=95KKvJoSg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-23 16:38 ` [Android-virt] " Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 16:50 ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 16:59 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:15 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 19:06 ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 17:18 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 17:57 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 20:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-08-23 22:18 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 9:24 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2011-08-23 17:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-08-23 17:23 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 21:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-08-24 13:51 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 15:45 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-24 16:00 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 16:09 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-24 16:13 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-25 10:13 ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-25 11:42 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 17:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-24 17:38 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-25 9:57 ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 17:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-24 11:43 ` Linus Walleij
2011-08-24 12:37 ` Martin HOVANG
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