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From: dave.martin@linaro.org (Dave Martin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM processor mode, kernel startup, Hyp / secure state
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:24:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110824092407.GA2078@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110823221800.GA21084@e102144-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:18:00PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:50:19PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > > At first I thought that the best thing to do would be to boot the
> > > kernel in any suitable mode, and have the kernel automatically detect
> > > the starting mode. ?I started writing code in linux's head.S to do
> > > this. ?However, detecting whether we are in secure state is very
> > > difficult: it involves deliberately risking an undefined instruction
> > > trap. ?The code for this was getting rather long and involved.
> > 
> > There may be a safe way to do this check -- for example, on ARM1176
> > and Cortex-A8 there is a CP14 debug status/control register that you can
> > read which includes a flag indicating which world you're in.  This isn't part
> > of the architecture though and may be different/not possible on some
> > CPUs.
> 
> Please don't do this! Accessing the debug registers via the CP14 registers
> is like playing russian roulette with a machine gun, especially when you
> have various hypervisor registers and hardware lock registers to contend
> with. For 3.2, I will be guarding all of the hw_breakpoint init debug
> probing with an undef_hook because I'm sick of blowing my head off when
> systems are configured to keep debug out.

Heh -- I didn't think it was quite that scary, but point taken.

> > All in all, it's better to engineer things so that the check doesn't need to
> > be done at all
> 
> Agreed. I think it's better to assume that you can't detect whether you're
> running in secure state or not.
> 
> Will

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-24  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-23 14:52 ARM processor mode, kernel startup, Hyp / secure state Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 15:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 16:50   ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:36     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 17:51       ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 19:59         ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found] ` <CANM98qLC2mLvXZwqurZvn-8VBR_KyQdK3Q=icU3k=95KKvJoSg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-23 16:38   ` [Android-virt] " Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 16:50 ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 16:59   ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:15     ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 19:06     ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 17:18   ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 17:45     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-23 17:57       ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 20:24         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-08-23 22:18   ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24  9:24     ` Dave Martin [this message]
2011-08-23 17:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-08-23 17:23   ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-23 21:12     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-08-24 13:51     ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 15:45       ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-24 16:00         ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 16:09           ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-24 16:13             ` Will Deacon
2011-08-25 10:13               ` Ian Jackson
2011-08-25 11:42                 ` Will Deacon
2011-08-24 17:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-24 17:38         ` Will Deacon
2011-08-25  9:57         ` Dave Martin
2011-08-23 17:42   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-24 11:43     ` Linus Walleij
2011-08-24 12:37       ` Martin HOVANG

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