From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: L1 & L2 cache flush sequence on CortexA5 MPcore w.r.t low power modes
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:15:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120515101505.GG10453@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515100902.GA10463@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:09:02AM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:40:10AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:15:33PM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:39:09PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > From what you're saying - and from my understanding of your cache behaviours,
> > > > even the sequence:
> > > > - clean cache
> > > > - disable C bit
> > > > - clean cache
> > > > is buggy.
> > >
> > > No, that's correct, works fine on A9 and A15. Second clean is mostly nops.
> >
> > It's racy. Consider this:
> >
> > - clean cache
> > - cache speculatively prefetches a dirty cache line from another CPU
> > - disable C bit
> - clean cache
Thank you for totally missing the point and destroying the example.
> > At this point, you lose access to that dirty data. If that dirty data is
> > used inbetween disabling the C bit and cleaning the cache for the second
> > time, you have data corruption issues.
>
> It is not racy. After disabling the C bit the cache clean operations write-back
> any dirty cache line to the next cache level. And the CPU is still in coherency
> mode so there is not a problem with that either.
No. *THINK* about the exact example I gave you. Think about what state
the CPU sees between that "disable C bit" and the final cache clean (which
you seem to be insisting is an atomic operation.)
Please, read what I'm saying rather than re-interpreting it, augmenting it
and then answering something entirely different.
> > As I have said, given what you've mentioned, it is impossible to safely
> > disable the cache on a SMP system. In order to do it safely, you need to
> > have a way to disable new allocations into the cache _without_ disabling
> > the ability for the cache to be searched.
>
> Cache lines can be acted upon with maintenance operations whether the C bit is
> set or clear. For instance caches can be invalidated when the MMU is off
> and the C bit is clear, eg v7 boot.
>
> Cache cleaning and cache enabling/disabling are two different things, that's
> valid for the PL310 as well.
Yes, of course I realise that. That's not what I'm talking about at all.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-15 10:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-14 7:03 L1 & L2 cache flush sequence on CortexA5 MPcore w.r.t low power modes Murali N
2012-05-14 15:50 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-14 15:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-14 16:21 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-14 16:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-14 17:15 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-15 9:25 ` Murali N
2012-05-15 9:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-15 10:09 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-15 10:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2012-05-15 16:28 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-15 16:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-15 17:05 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-09-19 8:55 ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-09-20 9:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-09-20 21:17 ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-09-23 21:32 ` Antti P Miettinen
2013-02-22 9:04 ` Antti P Miettinen
2013-02-22 9:39 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-02-23 20:41 ` Antti P Miettinen
2013-02-25 13:36 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-05-15 18:17 ` Will Deacon
2012-05-17 5:01 ` Murali N
2012-05-17 7:30 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2013-12-24 17:52 ` Antti Miettinen
2014-01-06 12:43 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
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