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From: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Paul E. McKenney)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: rcu self-detected stall messages on OMAP3, 4 boards
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:00:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120922160031.GC2934@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hy5wO9CL5_1e8U7L3Tihm_HYD6uAsda3ue-zDKFjir2Xg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 05:45:12PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 2012/9/22 Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 01:31:49PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> >> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [120921 12:58]:
> >> >
> >> > Just to make sure I understand the combinations:
> >> >
> >> > o   All stalls have happened when running a minimal userspace.
> >> > o   CONFIG_NO_HZ=n suppresses the stalls.
> >> > o   CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ (which depends on CONFIG_NO_HZ=y) has
> >> >     no observable effect on the stalls.
> >>
> >> The reason why you may need minimal userspace is to cut down
> >> the number of timers waking up the system with NO_HZ.
> >> Booting with init=/bin/sh might also do the trick for that.
> >
> > Good point!  This does make for a very quiet system, but does not
> > reproduce the problem under kvm, even after waiting for four minutes.
> > I will leave it for more time, but it looks like I really might need to
> > ask Linaro for remote access to a Panda.
> 
> I have one. I'm currently installing Ubuntu on it and I'll try to
> manage to build
> a kernel and reproduce the issue.
> 
> I'll give more news soon.

Thank you!

My bet is that you have to have a userspace that is so small that it
registers only a few (but at least one!) RCU callback at boot time,
then never registers any callbacks ever again.  I have coded up a
crude test case, using Tony Lindgren's suggestion of "init=/bin/sh",
but I appear to have inadvertently fixed this bug in current -rcu
(git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/linux-rcu.git,
branch rcu/next).

But I have been wrong a few times already on this particular bug...

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-22 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-12 22:51 rcu self-detected stall messages on OMAP3, 4 boards Paul Walmsley
2012-09-13  1:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-13 18:52   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-20  0:03     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-20  7:56       ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-20 15:03         ` Bruce, Becky
2012-09-20 21:49         ` Bruce, Becky
2012-09-20 22:01           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-20 22:47             ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-20 23:21               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 18:08                 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-21 18:58                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 19:11                     ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-21 19:57                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 20:31                         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-09-21 22:03                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 15:45                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-22 16:00                               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-09-21 22:12                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 18:42                         ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-22 20:10                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 21:59                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 22:25                               ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-22 23:11                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-23  7:55                                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-23 12:11                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-23  1:42                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-23  1:56                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-23  2:01                                     ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-24  9:41                               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-24 13:18                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-01  8:55                               ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-01 13:28                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 18:59                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-21 17:47               ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-21 17:51                 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-21 21:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 22:41                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-22  0:05                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 18:16                       ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-22 19:52                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 22:20                           ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-22 23:17                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-24 21:54                               ` Paul Walmsley
2012-09-24 22:00                                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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